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English translation: appetitive power


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German term or phrase:Strebekraft
English translation:appetitive power
Entered by: Astrid Elke Johnson
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12:17 Aug 4, 2010
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German term or phrase: Strebekraft
What does Strebekraft translate as in English? The Latin word would be appetitus and the English word may be close to hope. I appreciate your help. With your help, I translated Strebevermoegen as "desire" in this same text (Thanks!). Strebekraft is used 3 times in the text. I will list them below, mostly as context since I am only really concerned about "Strebekraft". This text makes frequent mention of Thomas Aquinas and Descartes as well as Fonseca and the Conimbricenses, if that helps.

"Das Erkennen ist ein Instrumentum remotum, das die Seele dazu disponiert, mit Hilfe der Strebekraft zu wirken."

"Hauptursache des Lachens ist die Seele, Instrumentalursache ihre Strebekraft und ihr Vermoegen, Bewegungen hervorzubringen, gleichzeitig aber das Ausstroemen von Blut and Geistern als Verboten des Lachens."

"Als Beispiel koennte ein Passus Ponces ueber das Verhaeltnis der Erkenntnis zur Strebekraft dienen."
Tecaquitha
(appetitive) power/ will power
Explanation:
Appetitive power in contrast to cognitive power (Erkenntniskraft/ vis cognitiva v Strebekraft/ vis appetitiva).

Since you are rendering "Strebevermoegen" as desire, you might want to use a contemporary interpretation for "Strebekraft" by translating it as will power.
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Summary of answers provided
5Desire
Marcos Guntin
4(appetitive) power/ will power
andyhd
3staying power / perseverence
Jeanie Eldon
2aspiration
Steffen Walter
Summary of reference entries provided
Strebekraft as synonym for StrebevermoegenTecaquitha

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(appetitive) power/ will power


Explanation:
Appetitive power in contrast to cognitive power (Erkenntniskraft/ vis cognitiva v Strebekraft/ vis appetitiva).

Since you are rendering "Strebevermoegen" as desire, you might want to use a contemporary interpretation for "Strebekraft" by translating it as will power.

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strebekraft
staying power / perseverence


Explanation:
Either of these terms could be suitable.

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Note added at 57 mins (2010-08-04 13:15:15 GMT)
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spelling correction: perseverAnce

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aspiration


Explanation:
... might be appropriate here - see reference below.


    Reference: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/aspiration
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strebekraft
Desire


Explanation:
If the Latin original is still appetitus, the English translation must remain the same. In German philosophy, Kraft and Vermögen are cuasi synonims for "faculty". Kant, to provide the canonic example, refers to the Erkenntnisvermögen and the Erkenntniskraft indistinctly to discuss the faculty or capacity of knowledge. There is of cours the possibility of making a distinction between Kraft and Vermögen, but it does not apply to this case. I think the German author was just avoiding repetition by resorting to synonims.

Hope this helps,

cheers!

Marcos

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-08-04 14:08:02 GMT)
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Typo: I meant "synonyms". Yawn!

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Note added at 4 hrs (2010-08-04 17:12:45 GMT)
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I am still confident that both terms must be translated equally. However, due to the reasons mentioned above, I am now more inclined to suggest, for the sake of accuracy, that you do without a conjectural contemporary equivalent, and stay close to the Latin text, translating both "Strebekraft" and "Strebevermögen" as "appetite".
It is the reader who should make an educated guess as to which contemporary concept better compares to the scholastic notion of "appetitus".

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neutral  andyhd: Yes indeed and the canonical counter example would be Herder, who clearly differentiates between Kraft and Vermögen. See Menke,C 2008 Kraft: Ein Grundbegriff ästhetischer Anthropologie, Suhrkamp
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  -> It is not necessary to summon the disciple when you can consult the teacher. Kant himself makes that distinction on ontological grounds (Kraft-actus / Vermögen-potentia). But, as I mentioned, it does not apply to this context. See Ak., XVII, 72.
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1 day31 mins
Reference: Strebekraft as synonym for Strebevermoegen

Reference information:
I posted a request for help with Strebevermoegen here:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/philosophy/39573...

The German text is listed below. In the meantime I think I will retain the shade of difference and translate Strebekraft as appetitive power and Strebevermoegen as appetitive faculty.

Example sentence(s):
  • Das Erkennen ist ein Instrument, das die Seele dazu disponiert, mit HIlfe des Strebevermögens zu wirken.

    Reference: http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/aquinas/summa/sum176.htm
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Changes made by editors
Aug 5, 2010 - Changes made by Astrid Elke Johnson:
Edited KOG entryTecaquitha's old entry - "strebekraft" => "appetitive power"
Aug 5, 2010 - Changes made by Astrid Elke Johnson:
Term askedstrebekraft => Strebekraft


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