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Sittenpolitik

English translation: the moral precepts of State and Church


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German term or phrase:kirchlich-staatliche Sittenpolitik
English translation:the moral precepts of State and Church
Entered by: Olaf Reibedanz
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18:54 Jan 6, 2005
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Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature
German term or phrase: Sittenpolitik
Denn für die kirchlich-staatliche **Sittenpolitik** der damaligen Zeit hatte die Sexualität nur das Ziel der Fortpflanzung.
Olav Rixen
Canada
Local time: 09:32
the moral precepts of State and Church
Explanation:
Perhaps?

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the moral precepts of Church and State (this way round it\'s more common)
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Olaf Reibedanz
Argentina
Local time: 13:32
Grading comment
Thanks, Olaf. Precepts sounds good to me, since I was indeed looking for an alternative to policy. Thanks also to everyone who tried.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +1moral policyPascalD
3 +2moral stancexxxFrancis Lee
4morality policy
David Hollywood
3 +1the moral precepts of State and Church
Olaf Reibedanz
3politics of morality
ntext
3received moralityAndrew Swift
2for the moralists in church and politics
Jonathan MacKerron


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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
politics of morality


Explanation:
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ntext
United States
Local time: 11:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 44

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nesrin: "Woodrow Wilson and the Politics of Morality", by John Morton Blum, Oscar Handlin (@amazon.com)
2 mins

disagree  xxxFrancis Lee: politics of morality = die Moral als politisches Thema
1 hr
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
the moral precepts of State and Church


Explanation:
Perhaps?

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the moral precepts of Church and State (this way round it\'s more common)


Olaf Reibedanz
Argentina
Local time: 13:32
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Thanks, Olaf. Precepts sounds good to me, since I was indeed looking for an alternative to policy. Thanks also to everyone who tried.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Wenjer Leuschel: "Moral precepts" is all right, but "State and Church"? Couldn't it be "Church-State" or "Church State"?
3 mins
  -> I don't think so Wenjer - but thanks for the "agree" anyway ;-)

agree  Christine Lam: I would prefer moral perception of State and Church
54 mins

neutral  xxxFrancis Lee: it's not wrong, but IMHO not what you'd say in this context
1 hr

disagree  PascalD: Finde ich auch sehr schön, aber Sittenpolitik und Sittenlehre, das ist nicht das Gleiche. Naja, ich will nicht päpstlicher als der Papst sein ;-)
13 hrs
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
moral policy


Explanation:
Kontext: Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, the chief architect of Pope John Paul II's traditionalist moral policy, has long been a bugaboo for liberal Catholics.


    Reference: http://www.catholiccitizens.org/
PascalD
Local time: 18:32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Joseph Hovan
7 hrs
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
morality policy


Explanation:
groups and values influence politicians' decisions regarding morality policy. ... values and groups on morality policy can be negated when the policy is ...


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or maybe: morality code

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if this is a modern account of historical events I think \"policy\" is ok otherwise I would go for \"precepts\" as Olaf suggests

David Hollywood
Local time: 13:32
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PRO pts in category: 26
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31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
moral stance


Explanation:
I don't think "Politik" here is "policy", which is something more formal, structured.

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\"individuals who are openly violating the church\'s moral stance on sex outside marriage\"
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/4/232003b.asp

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\"individuals for whom the \"traditional\" moral stance of the Church of condemnation of homosexual behavior as immoral is problematic\"
http://www.cccu.org/news/news_past_detail.asp?newsID=23&pare...

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the prevailing moral stance

or

moral creed

\"Having a standard moral creed, Christian or otherwise that\'s upheld by institutional commitment and not individual rationalization doesn\'t make a better society\"
http://www.lowendmac.com/misc/02/1028.html

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position on moral issues

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moral dogma

(and here\'s a very relevant reference)
\"... who recently attacked the reaffirmation of Catholic moral dogma concerning chastity in the Catholic Catechism\"
http://catholiccitizens.org/press/contentview.asp?c=11274

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(just anything except \"policy\" !!!!)

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prevailing view (the reference to sex makes things clear enough without \"moral\")

moral standpoint

xxxFrancis Lee
Local time: 18:32
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PRO pts in category: 80

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ian M-H: moral stance/position; stance/position on morals/morality
25 mins
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agree  Fantutti: with Ian: stance/position on morality
1 hr
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
received morality


Explanation:
Oxford English Dictionary defines 'receive' in this context as 'give credit to/ accept as true'

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Similar phrases: \'received wisdom\' \'an axiom universally received\'

Andrew Swift
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:32
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
for the moralists in church and politics


Explanation:
another option

Jonathan MacKerron
Local time: 18:32
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PRO pts in category: 67
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