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English translation: through personal interaction(s)

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German term or phrase:	über Köpfe
English translation:	through personal interaction(s)
Entered by:	David Williams

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13:42 Jan 14, 2009

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Science - Science (general) / Research & development

German term or phrase: über Köpfe

Context:
Wissenstransfer geschieht am besten „über Köpfe“.

Talking about the application of scientific findings in innovations. I've seen it translated as "transfer through human capital mobility" in a slightly different context, but that doesn't seem to hit the mark to me.

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Local time: 18:44

through personal interactions [(rather than more formal and slower interchanges of (see below)

Explanation:
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through personal interactions [(rather than more formal and slower interchanges of journal articles and the like)]

Selected response from:

TechLawDC
United States

Grading comment

Thanks, I think that does indeed work best.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +3

through "brains" / brainy people

Sabine Lenz

3 +1

expertise is best transferred by transferring experts

Anne Schulz

"via brains"

Crassenstein

3 +1

from one thinker to another

casper

mind to mind

Ken Cox

academic - business transfer

Helen Shiner

through personal interactions [(rather than more formal and slower interchanges of (see below)

TechLawDC

through humans / the human factor

Steffen Walter

with individuals with scientific minds

bonafide1313

Summary of reference entries provided

Towards a definition

Helen Shiner

Towards a definition (2)

bonafide1313

Discussion entries: 7

Answers

35 mins confidence:

„über Köpfe“ through humans / the human factor

Explanation:
What is key/crucial to transfer knowledge is the "human" factor.
The best way to transfer knowledge is to make use of the "human" factor.

(as a first approximation)

Steffen Walter
Germany
Local time: 18:44
Native speaker of:

German
PRO pts in category: 31

43 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

„über Köpfe“ through "brains" / brainy people

Explanation:
as in "intelligent people"

Sabine Lenz
Germany
Local time: 18:44
Native speaker of:

German,

English

1 hr confidence:

„über Köpfe“

through personal interactions [(rather than more formal and slower interchanges of (see below)

Explanation:
((another Proz website malfunction))
through personal interactions [(rather than more formal and slower interchanges of journal articles and the like)]

TechLawDC
United States
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Thanks, I think that does indeed work best.

1 hr confidence:

„über Köpfe“ "via brains"

Explanation:
our "Köpfe" is equivalent for US`s "brains". We call them "Köpfe" (Eierköpfe, das Prekariat), they call them "brains" or eggheads (everybody).

Example sentence(s):

via brains you ought to accomplish your goals.

Crassenstein
Germany
Works in field
Native speaker of: German

Notes to answerer

Asker: That would mean "telepathically" or "by telepathy", would it not?

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

from one thinker to another

Explanation:
or even:
from one thinking mind to another

casper
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

2 hrs confidence:

„über Köpfe“ with individuals with scientific minds

Explanation:
... just an idea in line with what I put as reference...

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... though it can't just be "pasted" into the asker's sentence

bonafide1313
Croatia
Local time: 18:44
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Croatian

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

Wissenstransfer geschieht am besten über Köpfe expertise is best transferred by transferring experts

Explanation:
another suggestion along Helen's lines

Anne Schulz
Local time: 18:44
Works in field
Native speaker of:

German
PRO pts in category: 14

58 mins confidence:

„über Köpfe“ academic - business transfer

Explanation:
There are such things as academic-business transfer programmes so maybe that would be an avenue to follow.

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The German expresses it in that way, but saying via brainy people or via brains is just nonsense in English. The 'transfer', or you could say 'collaboration' is HOW, but it is more than that. It is about graduates moving into industry/business. Your expression 'transfer through human capital mobility' is correct though ugly and could perhaps be improved upon. How about 'academic - business interchange' - though that still does not cover the move into jobs by academics.

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How about 'transfer of expertise'? Surely that is what it is and rather more sophisticated as a turn of phrase? Hope it helps anyway.

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or what about 'mobility of expertise' - the Köpfe here are the experts - everyone has brains and it is not about just any old human interaction

This article is about how UK-based transnational corporations source expertise and move highly skilled people among their sites. TNCs rely heavily on their internal labour markets for skills. We examine patterns and trends in the ways that TNCs in two sectors, aerospace and extractives, dynamically orchestrate and deploy their networks of expertise internationally to address the demands of different markets. We chart the types of mobility that exist, identify how and why they are used, and explore some of the institutional, industrial, organizational and technological factors that influence these trends. We show that different types of mobility play distinct roles in organizations. Companies respond to mobility calls from diverse stimuli by linking together mobility options into portfolios of moves that represent negotiated responses to industrial and individual requirements.
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119421365/abstrac...

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Sorry I was distracted. This is the title of the above article:
Portfolios of mobility: the movement of expertise in transnational corporations in two sectors — aerospace and extractive industries

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:44
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

Notes to answerer

Asker: Except that this is talking about HOW such academic - business transfer takes place.

23 hrs confidence:

mind to mind

Explanation:
another option...

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On second thought, after looking at the reference comments you should consider whether the intended meaning in the context is the process of transfering knowledge or expertise from one person to another (in which case mind to mind would work), or from one organisation to another (in which case you could consider an alternative such as 'via grey matter' ) If you need a slogan in the latter case, how about 'use your noggin' or 'use our noggin', as appropriate ( the second option is somewhat humorous, which is a bonus if it fits the situation).

Ken Cox
Local time: 18:44
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

Notes to answerer

Asker: Yes, it is - as you suspect - from one organisation to another, rather than merely from one person to another, but that transfer from one organisation to another is achieved from one person to another, or that's how I understand it.

Reference comments

32 mins peer agreement (net): +2

Reference: Towards a definition

Reference information:
Transfer über Köpfe
Berliner Förderprogramm "Innovationsassistent" feiert 20. Geburtstag

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Der beste Transfer von Wissen aus der Hochschule hinein in kleine und mittlere Unternehmen erfolgt über Köpfe: durch die Einstellung von jungen Hochschulabsolventen, die voller innovativer Ideen stecken. Nach diesem Grundgedanken wurde vor 20 Jahren von Wirtschaftssenator Elmar Pieroth das Berliner Förderprogramm "Innovations-Assistent" aus der Taufe gehoben, das die Anstellung von frisch examinierten Technik- und Wirtschaftsstudenten mit einem Förderbonus von 45 Prozent für ein Jahr unterstützt, sofern ein Arbeitsvertrag über zwei Jahre abgeschlossen wird.
http://www.berlinews.de/archiv-2002/1746.shtml

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

2 hrs peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: Towards a definition (2)

Reference information:
Der Wissens- und Technologietransfer von der Grundlagenforschung in die Wirtschaft läuft vor allem über bestens ausgebildete, kreative Fachleute. Ein weiterer Weg sind Patente, Firmengründungen, gemeinsame Projekte und informelle Kontakte.
Von Erika Meili
Der Transfer in die Wirtschaft läuft über Köpfe
«Der Transfer von der Forschung in die Wirtschaft läuft über Köpfe», sagt Rudolf Walser von Economiesuisse, dem Verband der Schweizer Unternehmen. «Und ohne hochstehende Forschung würde die Ausbildung im internationalen Vergleich zurückfallen.» Die Schweizer Wirtschaft braucht denn auch immer mehr wissenschaftlich gebildete Fachleute.

bonafide1313
Croatia
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Croatian

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Jan 14, 2009 - Changes made by Marcus Malabad:
Term asked	„über Köpfe“ => über Köpfe

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