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# Sigma(vorh)

## English translation: Sigma(real)

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 16:40 Apr 24, 2001
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 German term or phrase: Sigma(vorh) context: statische Berechnungen zum Nachweis der Betriebsfestigkeit einer Überschlag-Gondel in these calculations, there are two values identified with the symbol for sigma. One has a subscript "zul" for permissible; the other is "vorh". I'm assuming this is short for "vorhanden," and was wondering what is the most common term for this: prevailing, current, actual, or something else altogether? TIA, Beth
 Beth KantusUnited States Local time: 20:09
 English translation:Sigma(real) Explanation:zul means zulässig jaust as you stated Vorh. means vorhanden also as you stated. From there you and all the other persons who did reply seem to think that tese are refering to sigma. This is not true : they are reffering to the data from which the sigma (a statistical function of the studied variables, just as you understood) is calculated. In other words "zul" refers to the data on which you can theoretically perform the sigma claculation. permissible is then correct. "Vorh" refers to the data really real or existing data on which you can perform the calculation. So you can write sigma(real), it should be correct.
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Yves Georges
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Local time: 02:09
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 Thanks for your help, and the explanation. An engineer I consulted on this said "actual". Thanks also to everyone else who offered suggestions.4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

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naSigma(real)
 Yves Georges
naextand sigma
 JLC
naexisting sigma
 Darin Fitzpatrick
naexisting. Also, (things) available
 Parrot

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9 mins
existing. Also, (things) available

Explanation:
It just occured to me "existing" is used in maths.

 ParrotSpainLocal time: 02:09Native speaker of: EnglishPRO pts in pair: 315
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2 hrs
existing sigma

Explanation:
I found no technical references to "existing Sigma" but several for "existing safety factor". Some of these use the phrase as a term with specific meaning; e.g. "(b) The number of slings re-tested to destruction shall be governed by the actual existing Safety Factor (S.F.) as follows:-" (from http://www.tc.gc.ca/MarineSafety/Directorate/TP/tp12245/tp12... )

 Darin FitzpatrickUnited StatesNative speaker of: EnglishPRO pts in pair: 1194
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7 hrs
extand sigma

Explanation:
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. In a geotechnical context, I would have said existing or existent sigma. However, I have found that "extand" is used as a translation for "vorh." (vorhanden), but I would double check this with your client first. See the link for reference.

Good Luck

Reference: http://www.simply4u.de/geo/dictionary.htm
 JLCLocal time: 01:09PRO pts in pair: 24
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2 days54 mins
Sigma(real)

Explanation:
zul means zulässig jaust as you stated
Vorh. means vorhanden also as you stated.

From there you and all the other persons who did reply seem to think that tese are refering to sigma. This is not true : they are reffering to the data from which the sigma (a statistical function of the studied variables, just as you understood) is calculated.

In other words "zul" refers to the data on which you can theoretically perform the sigma claculation.
permissible is then correct.
"Vorh" refers to the data really real or existing data on which you can perform the calculation. So you can write sigma(real), it should be correct.

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 Yves GeorgesFranceLocal time: 02:09Native speaker of: FrenchPRO pts in pair: 185
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 Thanks for your help, and the explanation. An engineer I consulted on this said "actual". Thanks also to everyone else who offered suggestions.
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