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שליטה ובקרה על מכשירי הרדיו

English translation: Control of radio equipment


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Hebrew term or phrase:שליטה ובקרה על מכשירי הרדיו
English translation:Control of radio equipment
Entered by: Lingopro
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23:18 Jan 29, 2012
Hebrew to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Military / Defense / radio equipment
Hebrew term or phrase: שליטה ובקרה על מכשירי הרדיו
I thought it's "command and control" but then I found on the web "access to and control of radio equipment" - which besides the fact of it being horrible construction (IMO), the access part doesn't really work for me. Then again, I'm not sure "command and control" is the correct translation.
Lingopro
Israel
Local time: 12:53
Control of radio equipment
Explanation:
When not in the "command and control" context, "שליטה ובקרה" is very reminiscent of a binomial (synonym binomial) (http://teflpedia.com/Binomial) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siamese_twins_(linguistics)#Wit...

Similar binomials in English: safe and sound, rant and rave, peace and quiet, plain and simple, first and foremost, neat and tidy.

When translating these in other languages it is usually better to just choose the main meaning (usually the first element in the pair) e.g. safe and sound = safe.

Perhaps it could be the same situation here with שליטה ובקרה....it may simply be better to translate it as just "control".

I have even found websites which do just this:
Hebrew Website:
http://www.shiloinvestment.com/?page_id=1683&lang=he
English Website:
http://www.shiloinvestment.com/?page_id=597

....where שליטה ובקרה is translated simply as "control (of your wealth)"

A possibility to consider if you are unsatisfied with other options.


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Ty Kendall
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:53
Grading comment
Thank you all! I chose this option following a discussion with the client who said that in this case it's a Hebrew binomial and that I would do good to use either command or control, not both. So, thank you very much!
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Summary of answers provided
4Command and Control (C&C)
Sangro
4Control of radio equipment
Ty Kendall
4care and control of radio equipment
Textpertise


  

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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
care and control of radio equipment


Explanation:
Although I have not found any specific references to care and control of radio equipment, the general concept of care and control of equipment generally is widespread.

See

http://tinyurl.com/7yk8d5m

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Note added at 19 mins (2012-01-29 23:37:58 GMT)
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"Care" is one of the definitions of the word בקרה and שליטה is definitely command or authority, so although they are the other way round in your original, I can see this as a pretty accurate approximation of meaning of the original.

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Note added at 27 mins (2012-01-29 23:45:33 GMT)
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Can you give any more context then?

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Note added at 1 hr (2012-01-30 00:19:44 GMT)
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My thought process: The system serves the staff in their domestic communications, governs and controls the receivers of broadcasts both outgoing and incoming with respect to international communications. My reasoning was that מקלטי משדר followed by שידור וקליטה didn't make a lot of sense unless these last two words mean outgoing and incoming. My next thought was that this makes more sense if קש"פ means not internal but domestic (i.e. within the country) and קש"ח means not external but international and thus cover traffic going abroad from within the country as well as traffic coming into the country from abroad.

Textpertise
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:53
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Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, but this is not it.

Asker: המערכת משרתת את אנשי הצוות במתן קש"פ ביניהם, שליטה ובקרה על המקמ"שים שידור וקליטה בקש"ח

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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Control of radio equipment


Explanation:
When not in the "command and control" context, "שליטה ובקרה" is very reminiscent of a binomial (synonym binomial) (http://teflpedia.com/Binomial) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siamese_twins_(linguistics)#Wit...

Similar binomials in English: safe and sound, rant and rave, peace and quiet, plain and simple, first and foremost, neat and tidy.

When translating these in other languages it is usually better to just choose the main meaning (usually the first element in the pair) e.g. safe and sound = safe.

Perhaps it could be the same situation here with שליטה ובקרה....it may simply be better to translate it as just "control".

I have even found websites which do just this:
Hebrew Website:
http://www.shiloinvestment.com/?page_id=1683&lang=he
English Website:
http://www.shiloinvestment.com/?page_id=597

....where שליטה ובקרה is translated simply as "control (of your wealth)"

A possibility to consider if you are unsatisfied with other options.




Ty Kendall
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:53
Meets criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 56
Grading comment
Thank you all! I chose this option following a discussion with the client who said that in this case it's a Hebrew binomial and that I would do good to use either command or control, not both. So, thank you very much!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Sangro: Army people expect to see military terms. C&C is such a term and cannot be simplified for the sake of linguistic purity.
2 hrs
  -> I know.... I just thought it could be something for Lingopro to consider...an alternative... if C&C really didn't suit her.
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Command and Control (C&C)


Explanation:
C&C System or the C&C function.

Standard term. This is the lingo used in this types of docs.

Sangro
Local time: 12:53
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