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Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s) | | Hungarian term or phrase: fő- és mellékszabály jellegű kapcsolat | | nem igényel alaposabb kifejést, ha vki találkozott ezzel, kérem segítsen. |
| Miklós SzigetiKudoZ activityQuestions: 1 (none open) Answers: 2
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| | relationship defined by primary and secondary rules | Explanation:
Jogi értelemben véve a főszabály primary rule, a mellékszabály secondary rule. Mivel a magyar "jellegűt" angolul kicsit bonyolultabban fejezzük ki, pl. szokásos forma a "relationship defined by xxx rule(s)", én a fenti megoldást javaslom: "relationship defined by primary and secondary rules" - ahol a kapcsolat nyilván jogi kapcsolat, azaz jogviszony, angolul legal relationship.
Az alábbi linken bővebben kifejtve és példákkal illusztrálva olvashatunk ezekről:
"Primary rules are rules of conduct; they tell you what your are legally obligated to do (or refrain from) and what consequences attach to obedience or disobedience. Thus, the criminal law rules that prohibit theft, forbid certain conduct and provide for penalties for violating the prohibition. Technically, the class of secondary rules includes everything except primary rules. For example, secondary rules are legal rules that allow for the creation, extinction, and alteration of secondary rules; secondary rules are power-conferring rules. Thus, contract law empowers individuals and firms to make contracts; contracts themselves are usually collections of primary rules.
More precisely, primary rules are rules that govern conduct, and secondary rules are rules that do not. Thus, the distinction between primary and secondary rules is just a bit different than the difference between duty-imposing and power-conferring rules: duty-imposing rules impose duties, whereas power-conferring rules confer power. This leaves open the possibility that some rules can regulate other rules, but do so by imposing duties. For example, a secondary rule might impose a duty to legislate in a certain way or a prohibition on certain kinds of rule creation."
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  Ildiko Santana
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Local time: 13:57
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6 hrs confidence:   relationship defined by primary and secondary rules
Explanation:
Jogi értelemben véve a főszabály primary rule, a mellékszabály secondary rule. Mivel a magyar "jellegűt" angolul kicsit bonyolultabban fejezzük ki, pl. szokásos forma a "relationship defined by xxx rule(s)", én a fenti megoldást javaslom: "relationship defined by primary and secondary rules" - ahol a kapcsolat nyilván jogi kapcsolat, azaz jogviszony, angolul legal relationship.
Az alábbi linken bővebben kifejtve és példákkal illusztrálva olvashatunk ezekről:
"Primary rules are rules of conduct; they tell you what your are legally obligated to do (or refrain from) and what consequences attach to obedience or disobedience. Thus, the criminal law rules that prohibit theft, forbid certain conduct and provide for penalties for violating the prohibition. Technically, the class of secondary rules includes everything except primary rules. For example, secondary rules are legal rules that allow for the creation, extinction, and alteration of secondary rules; secondary rules are power-conferring rules. Thus, contract law empowers individuals and firms to make contracts; contracts themselves are usually collections of primary rules.
More precisely, primary rules are rules that govern conduct, and secondary rules are rules that do not. Thus, the distinction between primary and secondary rules is just a bit different than the difference between duty-imposing and power-conferring rules: duty-imposing rules impose duties, whereas power-conferring rules confer power. This leaves open the possibility that some rules can regulate other rules, but do so by imposing duties. For example, a secondary rule might impose a duty to legislate in a certain way or a prohibition on certain kinds of rule creation."
(Legal Theory Lexicon)
Reference: http://legaltheorylexicon.blogspot.com/2004/06/legal-theory-...
| Ildiko Santana
United States
Local time: 13:57
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Native speaker of:  Hungarian, English
PRO pts in category: 101
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Asker: a fenti idézetben vannak gyenge pontok, pl. helyesen: A distinction between primary and secondary legal rules, where a primary rule governs conduct and a secondary rule allows of the creation, alteration, or extinction of PRIMARY!! rules (és NEM secondary, mert ennek így nem lenne túl sok értelme).
a válasz remek, köszönöm.
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