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English translation: to provide for physical and conjugal needs

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Indonesian term or phrase:	memberi nafkah lahir dan batin
English translation:	to provide for physical and conjugal needs
Entered by:	David Andersen

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22:36 Feb 2, 2012

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Indonesian term or phrase: memberi nafkah lahir dan batin

Istilah ini muncul dalam daftar hak dan kewajiban suami isteri yang ada di Kutipan Akta Nikah. (bisa lihat di http://www.me2d.net/2008/09/hak-dan-kewajiban-suami-istri.ht... Dari jawaban Kudoz yang lain, (http://www.proz.com/kudoz/indonesian_to_english/poetry_liter... diusulkan terjemahan physically and mentally, tetapi dalam konteks ini tidak akan cocok bilang "mental livelihood". Sepertinya terjemahan lahir batin harus diubah sesuai konteks. Terjemahan batuan batin mungkin agak berbeda daripada nafkah batin.

David Andersen KudoZ activity Questions: 54 (none open) Answers: 57 Australia
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to provide for physical and conjugal needs

Explanation:
This is a standard formula in Indonesian/Malay to express a man's obligations to his wife under Islamic law: to provide for her physical needs (nafkah lahir) of livelihood and shelter, and to meet her conjugal needs (nafkah batin). Failure to meet these obligations is a ground for divorce.

Selected response from:

Bashir Basalamah
Singapore
Local time: 08:14

Grading comment

I agree with Raphita, this is expressed very well and catches the underlying meaning in a clear and tasteful way
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +2

to provide for physical and conjugal needs

Bashir Basalamah

provide livelihood and engage sexually

Erich Ekoputra

provide for physical and spiritual needs

Ikram Mahyuddin

to devotely serve emotional, material, and physical needs

Wiyanto Suroso

Answers

29 mins confidence:

provide livelihood and engage sexually

Explanation:

memberi nafkah lahir bermakna cukup jelas: memberikan uang atau menyediakan kebutuhan fisik (mis. makanan melalui memancing untuk mendapatkan ikan, bertani untuk menghasilkan padi dlsb.)

memberi nafkah batin adalah eufemisme bagi bersenggama atau bersetubuh, suatu kebutuhan yang -- di dalam masyarakat Indonesia yang religius -- hanya boleh dan hanya dapat dipenuhi melalui ikatan pernikahan.

Ref 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Roebling
His father owned a small tobacco shop, but the business was insufficient to provide livelihood for all three sons.

Ref 2: http://rahsiabatin.com/
Permata Yang Hilang adalah pengetahuan 'Seni Nafkah Batin' yang membicarakan soal senggama (hubungan seks) secara terang dan jelas merupakan rujukan penting bagi setiap bakal pengantin dan suami isteri.

Ref 3: http://www.beyondaffairs.com/articles/Healing_A_Marriage.htm
There tends to be struggles from the betrayed picturing the unfaithful spouse having sex with the affair partner, and when this is happening it’s almost impossible to engage sexually in the marriage.

Erich Ekoputra
Indonesia
Local time: 07:14
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Indonesian
PRO pts in category: 36

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

to provide for physical and conjugal needs

Bashir Basalamah
Singapore
Local time: 08:14
Native speaker of:

Malay
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

I agree with Raphita, this is expressed very well and catches the underlying meaning in a clear and tasteful way

5 hrs confidence:

to devotely serve emotional, material, and physical needs

Explanation:
Pada dasarnya, "memberi bantuan lahir batin" itu serupa dengan "memberi nafkah lahir batin" karena "nafkah" dalam hal ini merupakan "bantuan" yang diwajibkan oleh ketentuan agama. Tampaknya, Akta Nikah sekadar meragamkan kedua istilah.

Pada rujukan di bawah ini, kebutuhan untuk memberikan "bantuan lahir batin" mencakup semuanya secara lengkap, yaitu 'emotional, material, and physical needs', termasuk kebutuhan biologis suami-istri.

Gender, State and Social Power in Contemporary Indonesia:Divorce and Marriage Law, by Kate O'Shaughnessy

The court considers that the primary obligation of a wife to devotely serve her husband's emotional, material, and physical needs within the limits prescribed by Islamic law, ....

http://books.google.co.id/books?id=kNPGclJUQuIC&pg=PA115&lpg...

Wiyanto Suroso
Indonesia
Local time: 07:14
Native speaker of:

Indonesian
PRO pts in category: 47

4 hrs confidence:

provide for physical and spiritual needs

Explanation:
www.facebook.com/.../178488755532629

Husbands & Wives: 1) Love and care for each other and their children. 2) Rear children in love and righteousness. 3) Provide for physical and spiritual needs. ...

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Pakai "to" di bagian awal.

Ikram Mahyuddin
Indonesia
Local time: 07:14
Native speaker of:

Indonesian
PRO pts in category: 12

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