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Indonesian term or phrase:	nikah sirri....
English translation:	unregistered marriage
Entered by:	Wiyanto Suroso

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13:47 Feb 27, 2010

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Indonesian term or phrase: nikah sirri....

nikah sirri = unrecorded marriage??

Kaharuddin KudoZ activity Questions: 359 (7 open) (40 closed without grading) Answers: 75 Indonesia
Local time: 10:39

unregistered marriage

Explanation:
nikah sirri: unregistered (Islamic) marriage; yang dapat disingkat unregistered marriage

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Unregistered marriage is often sincere and valid according to Islamic law and ...

http://www.indonesiamatters.com/3758/nikah-siri/

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Wiyanto Suroso
Indonesia
Local time: 09:39

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makasih pak
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Summary of answers provided

5 +3

unregistered marriage

Wiyanto Suroso

Marriage performed under Islamic law, not authorised by or registered with civil authorities

Catherine Muir

Islamic, but unregistered, marriage

Catherine Muir

unofficial marriage

Rahmad Ibrahim

Discussion entries: 1

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3 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

unregistered marriage

Wiyanto Suroso
Indonesia
Local time: 09:39
Native speaker of:

Indonesian
PRO pts in category: 29

Grading comment

makasih pak

46 mins confidence:

unofficial marriage

Explanation:
dalam Koran The Jakarta Post, nikah Siri ditulis unofficial marriage
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/02/17/get-registered...

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Kompas versi bahasa Inggris pun juga menuliskan :Unofficial Marriage

http://english.kompas.com/read/2010/02/18/16441121/Unofficia...

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Note added at 52 mins (2010-02-27 14:40:04 GMT)
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ditemuakn lebih dari sejuta, hasil penelusuran di google untuk Unofficial Marriage, yakni 1.950.000

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Note added at 53 mins (2010-02-27 14:40:34 GMT)
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typo: ditemuakn= ditemukan

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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-02-27 17:07:04 GMT)
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New York Times yang ditulis oleh orang berbahasa ibu Inggris, juga ada berita UNOFFICIAL MARRIAGE,
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9801EFDF153AE...

Example sentence(s):

While unofficial marriage (nikah siri) is recognized under Islamic law, the government finds it necessary to regulate marriages to prevent its negative impacts, a minister says.

Rahmad Ibrahim
Indonesia
Local time: 09:39
Native speaker of:

Indonesian

1 day22 hrs confidence:

nikah sirri Marriage performed under Islamic law, not authorised by or registered with civil authorities

Explanation:
Nikah SIRRI adalah pernikahan yang hanya memenuhi prosedur keagamaan. Nikah sirri artinya nikah secara rahasia, tanpa melaporkannya ke KUA atau ke Kantor Catatan Sipil. A 'nikah siri' marriage (often called 'nikah dibawah tangan') entails an Islamic wedding performed by a Muslim 'cleric' not authorised by the Department of Religion to perform marriages, and is often regarded as valid within Islamic law provided that witnesses are present. However very often 'nikah siri' is done fairly secretly and without the presence of witnesses. In either case the marriage cannot be later registered with the Civil Registry Office, and as such is not recognised by the state for most purposes. One consequence of this is children of such unions can be regarded as illegitimate and mothers may find it difficult to obtain birth certificates for them.

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I think it is not sufficient to say that 'nikah siri' is merely an 'unofficial' or 'unregistered' marriage; it is instead a very specific kind of 'unofficial' or 'unregistered' marriage, i.e., one performed purportedly under Islamic law, but does not meet the criteria for a valid marriage, both because it is performed by someone not authorised to do so, is recognised neither by the community nor the authorities, and can have dire consequences for both the woman and any offspring.

Example sentence(s):

Militant religious leader Abu Bakar Ba’asyir urged the government to ban nikah siri, because one of the requirements of a valid marriage, he said, was that the couple be acknowledged and recognised by the community as a married couple.

Reference: http://www.indonesiamatters.com/3758/nikah-siri/
Reference: http://www.pesantrenvirtual.com/index.php/component/content/...

Catherine Muir
Australia
Local time: 12:39
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English

5 days confidence:

nikah sirri Islamic, but unregistered, marriage

Explanation:
A concise way of expressing the fact that a marriage took place under Islamic law but is neither acknowledged by the community nor registered with the civil authorities. A more complete definition is provided in my earlier answer.

Example sentence(s):

A 'nikah siri' marriage (often called 'nikah dibawah tangan') entails an Islamic wedding performed by a Muslim 'cleric' not authorised by the Department of Religion to perform marriages, and is often regarded as valid within Islamic law provided that witn
THE VARIANTS OF NIKAH SIRRI: POLYGAMY, POLYANDRY, “TEMPORARY MARRIAGE”, AND NIKAH GANTUNG

Reference: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=cF97F--suNAC&pg=PA664&lp...
Reference: http://www.crcs.ugm.ac.id/st_activity_view.php?act_id=13

Catherine Muir
Australia
Local time: 12:39
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English

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Changes made by editors

Mar 12, 2010 - Changes made by Wiyanto Suroso:
Edited KOG entry	Kaharuddin's old entry - "nikah sirri...." => "unregistered marriage"
Feb 28, 2010 - Changes made by Erich Ekoputra:
Language pair	English to Indonesian => Indonesian to English

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