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Italian term or phrase:	area di consolidamento
English translation:	scope of consolidation
Entered by:	Peter Cox

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7:25pm Apr 19, 2007

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Italian term or phrase: area di consolidamento

COMPOSIZIONE E VARIAZIONE DELL’AREA DI CONSOLIDAMENTO

La tabella che segue mostra l’elenco delle società controllate incluse nell’area di consolidamento al 31 dicembre 2006

pcjohnz

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Italy

scope of consolidation

Explanation:
Commonly used and more explicit than consolidated companies

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Peter Cox
Italy

Note from asker to answerer

Agreed!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

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5 +2

scope of consolidation

Peter Cox

"within the consolidation" see note

James (Jim) Davis

consolidated companies

Grey Drane

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13 mins confidence:

consolidated companies

Explanation:
OK Paul, I imagine you have some ulterior motive for posting this question, but I still stand by my "consolidated companies" in this context, too. So the heading might be:

Group of Consolidated Companies

or "List of...", "Table of...", or even just "Consolidated Companies". Based on the information you've given us, I don't think the "Composizione e Variazione" needs to be translated explicitly.

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Note added at 13 mins (2007-04-19 19:39:11 GMT)
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Sorry, forgot to add a winking smiley above, so here it is:

;-)

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Note added at 31 mins (2007-04-19 19:57:04 GMT)
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OK, but I'm not sure you need to explicitly translate "variazione" in the title if it's unduly awkward. If the changes are merely discussed in "narrative" form following the table, as opposed to pointed out somehow directly within the table, I might be inclined to take some "poetic license" in translating the title.

FWIW

Grey Drane
Italy
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English
PRO pts in category: 52

Notes to answerer

Asker: You are a good sport Grey! In fact, I don't disagree with your solution in certain contexts. The section I am translating does in fact address both the scope of consolidation (in principle) and changes from 2005-2006. Thanks for your comments

6 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

scope of consolidation

Explanation:
Commonly used and more explicit than consolidated companies

Peter Cox
Italy
Specializes in field
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English
PRO pts in category: 177

Note from asker to answerer

Agreed!

9 hrs confidence:

"within the consolidation" see note

Explanation:
For one client:
The table that follows contains a list of the subsidiaries included within the consolidation as at 31st December 2006

For another client I translate it "consolidation area", because the client finds it reassuring and the client's US and UK investors obviously have no difficulty in understanding, otherwise they wouldn't lend so much money to the client.

Also "consolidation area" is probably more easily understood by South American and most European investors.

Finally, the other answers are *perfectly* acceptable.

And that makes three ;-)

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Note added at 9 hrs (2007-04-20 04:38:24 GMT)
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One final note. I seem to remember that in the Seventies there was no requirement to even publish consolidated accounts in Italy. It received attention in the press, because nobody new the financial position of a particularly large and important Group (just as important now) because of this. Also one line of thinking is that my translation "subsidiaries within the consolidation" might seem a "tautology". Well if they weren't subsidiaries, then they wouldn.t be in the consolidations. But of course under Italian GAAP non core subsidiaries were not included in the consolidation. And that is where you start to run into the Whorf hypothesis.

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=desk...

James (Jim) Davis
Italy
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English
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Italian: area di consolidamento

English translation: scope of consolidation