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13:52 Oct 14, 2011
Italian to English translations [PRO] Art/Literary - Architecture / History of excavations of Herculaneum
Italian term or phrase:in sottosquadro
Tav 90 – Reintegrazione e consolidamento delle murature in opera incerta in ** sottosquadro **. A sinistra, Casa del Colonnato Toscano (VI, 16, 17, 18, 26, 27); a destra, Casa del Salone Nero (VI, 11,13). Foto Emanuela Sorbo. A partire degli anni 60 le reintegrazioni sono realizzate in ** sottosquadro ** .
Tav 91 - Reintegrazione/consolidamento delle murature in opera listata. Casa del Colonnato Toscano (VI, 16, 17, 18, 26, 27). Foto Emanuela Sorbo. Le reintegrazioni in ** sottosquadro ** in questo caso recano impresso il momento del crollo dell’eruzione e assumono anche un valore narrativo-documentario.
I've selected the wrong one by mistake. In the end I used "sottosquadro technique" and put something similar Neptunia'a explanation in brackets using the word recesses.
All I've seen regarding this term is the decorative technique of the same, which sounds a bit like creating a mosaic, and some descriptions which sound like patchwork. Too bad the photos are not helpful! I dont know if this would be helpful either, you many have seen it already: http://www.ilgiornaledellarchitettura.com/articoli/2009/10/1...
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recessed
Explanation: I think they are talking about a restoration technique in which the restored area is not level with the surface but rather recessed. This allows the viewer to see the "fake" areas and not get confused with the original. Recessed might not be the only way to describe it but I can't think of anything better just now! Does this make sense with the images?
Neptunia Local time: 01:49 Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: I considered that myself, but I'm just guessing really.
Asker: The photos I have don't really help, unfortunately.
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forse meglio in back draft
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Older answer to same question in September:
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back drafts
'In prossimità della porta est, che immette nell’ambulatio, porticata, egualmente pavimentata a tarsie policrome di marmo, rimangono, in situ, frammenti di lastre più sottili e, perciò, in sottosquadro rispetto alla decorazione principale, scanalate a glifi, quasi a guisa di colonne.
In situ remain fragments of thinner slabs, in back draft as to the main decoration, fluted with glyphs, almost like columns, which contour the eastern door that leads to the ambulatio porticata, equally paved with marble polychrome tarsia.'
(source www.villadilivia.com/storia.pdf, pp. 28&30)
Here's another definition of the Italian term:
'... il sottoquadro, molto usato nel 1400, che consiste nello scavare il contorno della figura non solo in squadra, cioè a 90° come si usa normalmente, ma anche dietro i contorni della figura da rappresentare, in modo da creare un maggior rilievo, grazie al maggior movimento delle ombre.'
(source, http://www.lucecolore.com/esperienze-plastiche-la-scultura.h...
seems that in that case the translation worked...
Anyway "undercut" is another option...
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John Wardle Architects and Hassell, Architects in association
Kaurna Building, University of South Australia, Ad
…..Irregularly finned precast panels hovering over a transparent undercut create a detailed texture along the length of this narrow street, and the effect is intensified by oblique angle views…..
…..Pannelli prefabbricati con sostegni irregolari sospesi
sopra un sottosquadro trasparente creano una trama dettagliata
per tutta la lunghezza di questa strada angusta, e l’effetto e`
intensificato da un colpo d’occhio sugli angoli obliqui…..
stefina Local time: 01:49 Works in field Native speaker of: Italian PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Stefina. The Garzanti dictionary gives undercut and backdraft, but little else. Your reference is a not very good translation.
Asker: What I need is to see the use of the terms by a US or UK architect.
The translation workplace 
