merletti

English translation: Hi Sarah

10:21 Jan 17, 2004
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Architecture / architecture
Italian term or phrase: merletti
Good morning, folks.

I need help to settle a doubt over the following phrase in a text describing castles:

"Diversi tra loro, i castelli della Valle d’Aosta ­- coronati da pesanti merlature medievali, o ingentiliti da **merletti** gotici, o impreziositi da grazie rinascimentali e capricci barocchi -­ raccontano secoli di architettura."

I'm unsure whether "merletti" here refers to merlons (IT "merli") or tracery. I'm inclined to think that it's the second, as merlature is obviously battlements and so merlons would seem a repretition (although I must admit that it is quite possible, seeing as the text is talking about different buildings). However, I've always seen tracery as "trafori" in Italian, and although "merletti" would seem nicely descriptive, I'm not sure whether it could actually in this sense.

What do you think?

TIA

Sarah
Sarah Ponting
Italy
Local time: 05:37
English translation:Hi Sarah
Explanation:
I think the author is playing with the root word "merlo".
It's possible to do it in Italian but rather clumsy in English.
It appears that the Medieval style is more robust and definitely of military architecture, therefore crenellations or even battlements.
While the Gothic style comes across as more delicate - not just decorative and therefore not really tracery, but less imposing.
I might go for using "merlons" twice and call them "sturdy Medieval merlons" and "refined Gothic merlons" or some such.
Cheers
Angela



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Note added at 1 hr 18 mins (2004-01-17 11:39:39 GMT)
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BTW - if you have the names of the castles it\'s worth looking them up as a picture might clear your mind and check this link - it\'s quite interesting.
http://www.marconinet.it/laguna/venezia/
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Angela Arnone
Local time: 05:37
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Thanks.
In the end I used "merlons" to be on the safe side, but I'm not actually sure what the author means so I've added a note to my translation.



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Angela Arnone
4yes, you are right
orietta l'abbate


  

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merletti (in questo contesto)
yes, you are right


Explanation:
Gothic (marble) tracery is a decoration with no functionality. I have translated it with lace-like, marble decoration in other jobs.

orietta l'abbate
Local time: 05:37
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merletti (in questo contesto)
Hi Sarah


Explanation:
I think the author is playing with the root word "merlo".
It's possible to do it in Italian but rather clumsy in English.
It appears that the Medieval style is more robust and definitely of military architecture, therefore crenellations or even battlements.
While the Gothic style comes across as more delicate - not just decorative and therefore not really tracery, but less imposing.
I might go for using "merlons" twice and call them "sturdy Medieval merlons" and "refined Gothic merlons" or some such.
Cheers
Angela



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Note added at 1 hr 18 mins (2004-01-17 11:39:39 GMT)
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BTW - if you have the names of the castles it\'s worth looking them up as a picture might clear your mind and check this link - it\'s quite interesting.
http://www.marconinet.it/laguna/venezia/


Angela Arnone
Local time: 05:37
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 144
Grading comment
Thanks.
In the end I used "merlons" to be on the safe side, but I'm not actually sure what the author means so I've added a note to my translation.



Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mario Marcolin: Merlons is a safe bet, cf http://www.inalto.org/escursioni/valledaosta/fenis/castello_...
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