English translation: pressed blocks of Marseilles Soap with Olive Oil
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This suggestion worked best because it incorporated pressed/martellati (as opposed to stamped which refers more to the branding/weight etc). Thanks 2 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer
and in the heat! A lethal combination. I reckon, Shera Lyn, that it's just the type. Thanks for all your help guys, if I don't move on from this point I'm never going to get finished. I'll have to come back to look at it all with a fresh mind. Thanks again.
Hi Kate, I saw Wikipedia alright but there are many more entries with S, especially online shops etc, and this is a catalogue I reckon I'll stick with the crowd! MisterBeppe, I can't find any reference to "hammered soap" on google, first few pages at least - so that rings some alarm bells.
And I don't like mysterious stamping or pressing processes. Thanks a million, I got thrown off track by a bogus Marseilles without the 's' website. Thanks again.
"olive oil stamped" sounds as though the soap had been submitted to a mysterious "olive oil stamping" process. And "olive oil pressed" sounds as though it had been submitted to an equally mysterious "olive oil pressing" process. So I'm sticking with my own suggestion. And in English "Marseilles" has an "s".
Thanks for all your help guys. I didn't expect to hear from anyone so quickly. Great stuff.
What do you think of "olive oil stamped Marseille soap bars" or "olive oil pressed bars of Marseille Soap"? (ignore the caps. - it's a title so I have to play around with the formatting).
Tom in London United Kingdom Local time: 04:24 Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 6
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This suggestion worked best because it incorporated pressed/martellati (as opposed to stamped which refers more to the branding/weight etc). Thanks
4 mins confidence:
olive oil-based Marsiglia soaps
Explanation: I would say
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to judge by the corresponding ghits, the term Marsiglia (Marseille)is left untranslated.
Marsiglia Completely natural soap whit pure vegetable ingredients obtained by the saponification of acid fast contained in the coconut oil and olive oil, ... www.onlineincense.com/cat_en.asp?cat_id=32-56
Ellen Kraus Local time: 05:24 Native speaker of: German PRO pts in category: 4
Explanation: If you have a look here, you may find something that will help.
And it ' "hammered" beacuse a hammer is used to take the sopa out of the mold!.
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Sorry about the typos. I'd leave "Marseilles" because, as some collegues said , the soap really comes from the French town, at least in its origin.
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Explanation: You may want to stick with Marseilles soap but I wanted to give you an alternative. This is another perfectly acceptable way of calling simple white soap.
Until I came to live in Italy I thought all mild white soap was castile soap (probably an Amercanism, thanks to my mother) . Then I discovered something they called Marseilles soap here,and it was really the same thing. .
But - Castile soap *is* made of olive oil and the soap making process is pretty much identical everywhere.
here http://dictionary.die.net/castile soap it says:
"Castile soap, a fine-grained hard soap, white or mottled,
made of olive oil and soda; -- called also Marseilles, or
Venetian, soap."
In the wikipedia link below it says "Another theory is that modern-day castile soaps are conceptually similar to, and most likely derived from the so-called white soap that has traditionally been manufactured in Northern Italy since the early 1600s. From Venice, where the oldest white soap factories were established, olive oil-based soap reached the Greek island of Crete first, and Southern France (Marseille) at a later stage."
Shera Lyn Parpia Italy Local time: 05:24 Works in field Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 24
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Asker: Thanks Sher Lyn, now I'm going to really have to ask the client whether it's the type or the origin because what I'd assumed was a very simple term sems to have mushroomed on me. I'll let you know what I find out, thank you