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saponi marsiglia martellati all Olio di'Oliva

English translation: pressed blocks of Marseilles Soap with Olive Oil


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Italian term or phrase:saponi marsiglia martellati all Olio di'Oliva
English translation:pressed blocks of Marseilles Soap with Olive Oil
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Science - Cosmetics, Beauty / Soap
Italian term or phrase: saponi marsiglia martellati all Olio di'Oliva
Hi everyone,
This is the description of a soap product, has anyone ever heard of "hammered marseilles soap"?
Lyns
Italy
Local time: 18:25
pressed blocks of Marseilles Soap with Olive Oil
Explanation:
example:

http://vivereverde.blogspot.com/2009/04/igiene-personale-con...
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Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:25
Grading comment
This suggestion worked best because it incorporated pressed/martellati (as opposed to stamped which refers more to the branding/weight etc). Thanks
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2pressed blocks of Marseilles Soap with Olive Oil
Tom in London
4 +1cold pressed castile (bar) soapShera Lyn Parpia
4olive oil-based Marsiglia soapsEllen Kraus
3Marseille olive oil stamped soap bars
Panagiotis Andrias
3Marseilles olive-oil hammered soap bars
MisterBeppe


Discussion entries: 15





  

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pressed blocks of Marseilles Soap with Olive Oil


Explanation:
example:

http://vivereverde.blogspot.com/2009/04/igiene-personale-con...

Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:25
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 6
Grading comment
This suggestion worked best because it incorporated pressed/martellati (as opposed to stamped which refers more to the branding/weight etc). Thanks

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Lionel_M: or "cube" ?//OK Tom, but I'm afraid they're no longuer handmade (NB: Marseille w/o "s" )
27 mins
  -> not exactly a perfect cube. Being handmade, they tend to be irregular

agree  Barbara Toffolon: With all this discussion, I now look at my soap bar under a different perspective ...... snicker
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olive oil-based Marsiglia soaps


Explanation:
I would say

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Note added at 12 Min. (2009-07-21 13:47:16 GMT)
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to judge by the corresponding ghits, the term Marsiglia (Marseille)is left untranslated.
Marsiglia Completely natural soap whit pure vegetable ingredients obtained by the saponification of acid fast contained in the coconut oil and olive oil, ...
www.onlineincense.com/cat_en.asp?cat_id=32-56

Ellen Kraus
Austria
Local time: 18:25
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Kate C: Marsiglia definitely needs to be translated. It is French after all. Your link is just a very poor translation from Italian/339 hits to be precise and yes, they're all translations.
14 mins
  -> there are more than 32.000 links on Marsiglia soaps. would you all call them poor translations ??
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Marseilles olive-oil hammered soap bars


Explanation:
If you have a look here, you may find something that will help.
And it ' "hammered" beacuse a hammer is used to take the sopa out of the mold!.

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Note added at 1 ora (2009-07-21 14:54:56 GMT)
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Sorry about the typos. I'd leave "Marseilles" because, as some collegues said , the soap really comes from the French town, at least in its origin.

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Note added at 1 ora (2009-07-21 14:57:09 GMT)
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maybe .... "with olive oil" postponed, sounds better.

Example sentence(s):
  • http://www.milkywaymolds.com/pages/tips_stamps.htm
MisterBeppe
Italy
Local time: 18:25
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
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cold pressed castile (bar) soap


Explanation:
You may want to stick with Marseilles soap but I wanted to give you an alternative. This is another perfectly acceptable way of calling simple white soap.

Until I came to live in Italy I thought all mild white soap was castile soap (probably an Amercanism, thanks to my mother) . Then I discovered something they called Marseilles soap here,and it was really the same thing. .

But - Castile soap *is* made of olive oil and the soap making process is pretty much identical everywhere.

here http://dictionary.die.net/castile soap it says:
"Castile soap, a fine-grained hard soap, white or mottled,
made of olive oil and soda; -- called also Marseilles, or
Venetian, soap."


In the wikipedia link below it says "Another theory is that modern-day castile soaps are conceptually similar to, and most likely derived from the so-called white soap that has traditionally been manufactured in Northern Italy since the early 1600s. From Venice, where the oldest white soap factories were established, olive oil-based soap reached the Greek island of Crete first, and Southern France (Marseille) at a later stage."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castile_soap
http://www.greenlivingtips.com/articles/221/1/Castile-soap.h...
http://ezinearticles.com/?Cold-Pressed-Castile-Soap---A-Retu...



Shera Lyn Parpia
Italy
Local time: 18:25
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Sher Lyn, now I'm going to really have to ask the client whether it's the type or the origin because what I'd assumed was a very simple term sems to have mushroomed on me. I'll let you know what I find out, thank you


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Rachel Fell: but Castile soap is basically white, whereas Marseilles soap is usu. olive green/light khaki colour http://tinyurl.com/ndxk4t\\Yes, prob. w. a statutory amount of o.oil, etc.
3 hrs
  -> sometimes, but not always... there does seem to be lot of leeway in the definitions..

agree  kiaoi: I would also use cold pressed castile soap ("If soap is made from pure olive oil it may be called Castile soap or Marseille soap" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap)
5 hrs
  -> true!
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Marseille olive oil stamped soap bars


Explanation:
Marseille olive oil stamped soaps

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Note added at 23 λεπτά (2009-07-21 13:58:16 GMT)
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Deve il suo nome al metodo con il quale, un tempo, venivano impressi marchio e scritte sulle facce del panetto: con un martello, appunto.
Confezioni Personalizzate sui fantastici saponi martellati. Prezzo Euro 8,00 Cad. Ordine n. 10 saponi Euro 80,00 – Euro 72,00 ...
www.mioelisir.com/.../sapone-martellato/ -

The soap maker uses an old hand press for traditional stamping of Marseille soap. Click here to learn about the history of Marseille soap ...
www.frenchsoapstore.com/about-soap.php -

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Unico nel suo genere questo sapone si fa notare per la sua particolare immagine ottenuta con antichi stampi in bronzo, cesellati a mano, dai caratteri in stile provenzale. La timbratura manuale è comunque l’ultima fase di un antico e unico processo di lavorazione secondo il quale...
Sapone Martellato Unico nel suo genere questo sapone si fa notare per la sua ... Sapone Martellato Caprifoglio 125 g • Sapone Martellato Lavanda 125 g ...
www.floralia.info/...saponette/...saponette/iframe_sapone_m... -

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Note added at 1 ώρα (2009-07-21 15:28:28 GMT)
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la mia proposta si basa solo su "stamped", che continuo a proporre caldamente, se leggi le referenze... per il resto, con la esse o non, penso poco conti, solo questione di stile personale...

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Note added at 2 ημέρες46 λεπτά (2009-07-23 14:21:12 GMT)
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vedi la seguente referenza. non farti ingannare. non é inteso questo con il termine martellato. il sapone non viene pressato, ma stampato/timbrato...

Il sapone così ottenuto verrà pressato per ottenere una saponetta da asciugare all'aria. Analisi del sapone. Per prima cosa si prende una scaglia del sapone ...
www.isii.it/ProgettiAllievi/2007-08/.../Saponificazione.pdf -

Panagiotis Andrias
Greece
Local time: 19:25
Native speaker of: Native in GreekGreek
PRO pts in category: 4
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