pasticceria secca

English translation: pastries

08:20 Oct 13, 2006

Italian to English translations [PRO]
Food & Drink

Italian term or phrase: pasticceria secca

Context : "Cucina rustica tipica locale con prodotti sott’olio, confetture, vini, pasta, olio extravergine, biscotti, taralli, pane di semola e pasticceria secca."

***pasticceria secca*** is in the kudoz glossary (http://www.proz.com/kudoz/202543 ; patisserie, dry pastries) but I'm not sure this option could do...

Any (brilliant) alternatives or fresh ideas ?

Umberto Cassano KudoZ activity Questions: 262 (none open) (7 closed without grading) Answers: 1142 Italy
Local time: 17:37

English translation:pastries

Explanation:
I would drop the 'dry' and just call them pastries. That conjures up savoury, flakey type offerings, or little tarts for a Brit like me.
Pasticceria is a broader term in Italian, so they specify it with 'secca'. Just a hunch.

Selected response from:

Claire Restivo
Local time: 16:37

Grading comment

Thanks Claire !
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +3

dry baked goods

Rachel Fell

1 +4

pastries

Claire Restivo

3 +1

fine cookies/biscuits

Linda 969

dry pastries/confectionery

clarinet3

3 -2

dried confectionery

Caterina Passari

Discussion entries: 2

Answers

7 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

pastries

Claire Restivo
Local time: 16:37
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Thanks Claire !

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Laura Massara

0 min

-> Thanks.

agree

Claire Titchmarsh (X): agree totally. In Britain we don't care if they're dry or cream-filled, we just eat them. Seriously, "dry" is not a distinction that's needed here, it seems like U's translation is a list of products in a restaurant and as such has to sound appetising.

32 mins

-> Now there's a woman who knows her pastries.

agree

P.L.F. Persio: in southern Italy, pastries are always "secchi", such as almond biscuits, macaroons-like, but your proposal works. Stop it, you "sweet" little devil!

34 mins

-> Cheers. But obviously you don't live in Sicily, where we have little tarts stuffed with fruit and cream, cannoli with ricotta, oozing...I can't go on.

agree

maryrose: also with Claire, it's more the appeal than the specifics, "pastries" covers the meaning, AND sounds yummy.

1 hr

-> Think I'll go for lunch. I feel hungry.

agree

Patricia Crotty

1 hr

-> Thank you!

disagree

Caterina Passari: ma per "pastry" si intende la "pasta" in generale..per dolci o pasticcini o comununque i pasticcini, che, almeno da me, potrebbero considerarsi, con questo nome, anche alla crema,non necessariamente secchi

1 hr

-> 'Pastry' (uncountable) is 'la pasta,' not 'pastries' (countable) which I guess you could say are pasticcini. Rachel's option is good...abit American, don't you think?

10 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -2

dried confectionery

Explanation:
la situazione é un pò complessa:) "confectionery" in inglese indica paste e dolciumi...poi, da regione a regione, possono esservi differenze...ad esempio, in "pasticceria secca" potrebbero rientrare i pasticcini da té, anche se in questo contesto non esistono indicazioni al riguardo...quindi, in senso generale, io tradurrei così

Caterina Passari
Italy
Local time: 17:37
Native speaker of:

Italian
PRO pts in category: 4

4 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

fine cookies/biscuits

Explanation:
Hi Umberto and all
My American sweet tooth can't tell the difference between cookies and "pasticceria secca". My Italian side is screaming heresy, but what can you do ;-)

Seriously, the cookies shown here are exactly what I associate with "pasticceria secca":

http://www.mozzicatobakery.com/store.asp
Our fine Italian cookies are meant to be shared. An elegant and sophisticated cookie tray from Mozzicato DePasquale Bakery and Pastry Shop makes the perfect gift. Our Italian cookie platters are so tempting and delicious we guarantee your family and friends will love them. Treat them or treat yourself!

I assume "fine biscuits" would do in the UK:

http://www.fortnumandmason.com/shopping/biscuits/products/?c...

And Amaretti di Saronno (definitely pasticceria secca) are commonly called "Italian biscuits".

*Pastries* has an entirely different meaning to me. Wikipedia seems to agree
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastry

Now, how do you translate biscotti if you call pasticceria secca cookies/biscuits? "Biscotti", of course!

What a fun question ;-)

Linda 969
Local time: 17:37
Native speaker of:

Italian,

English
PRO pts in category: 24

26 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

dry baked goods

Explanation:
Dense and dry baked goods such as fruitcakes and biscotti are good choices for mailing because they will not become moldy. Other suitable baked goods ...
www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/news/2001/milgifts.htm

The sophisticated packaging machines from LOESCHPACK are used in the confectionery, dry baked goods, certain food and non-food industries, wherever the ...
www.packexpo.com/ve/35418/main.html

Compact high-performance machine for fold wrapping of confectionery or dry baked goods and for other food and non-food products as primary packaging. ...
packaging-machinery.globalspec.com/Industrial-Directory/packaging_food_machine

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Note added at 51 mins (2006-10-13 09:11:23 GMT)
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Nice note, Umberto!

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Note added at 56 mins (2006-10-13 09:16:39 GMT)
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if you look at the things on this page or following ones, they're not what I'd call pastries, really...

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hs=bKd&hl=en&safe=off&clie...

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Note added at 1 day39 mins (2006-10-14 08:59:41 GMT)
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Specifiers interested in wrapping machines and systems for the handling of products in the chocolate, dry baked goods, and confectionery industries will ...
www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/news/fullstory.php/aid/2107/Innov...

Specialist in wrapping machines for chocolate, dry baked goods and confectionery, LoeschPack, will exhibit robot technology for tray loading and charging ...
www.packagingtoday.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=57&storyCode...

Rachel Fell
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:37
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 132

Notes to answerer

Asker: Dry goods appears in an amusing repartee in the Picture of Dorian Gray: I am told, on excellent authority, that her father keeps an American dry-goods store," said Sir Thomas Burdon, looking supercilious. "My uncle has already suggested pork-packing Sir Thomas." "Dry-goods! What are American dry-goods?" asked the duchess, raising her large hands in wonder and accentuating the verb. "American novels," answered Lord Henry, helping himself to some quail.

1 day 1 hr confidence:

dry pastries/confectionery

Explanation:
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clarinet3
Italy
Local time: 17:37
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Italian,

English
PRO pts in category: 3

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