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Italian: affine

English translation: relative by marriage



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Italian term or phrase:affine
English translation:relative by marriage
Entered by:Ivana Micheli
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Italian to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Insurance / Umbrella policy
Italian term or phrase: affine
• il coniuge, i genitori, i figli dell’Assicurato, nonchè qualsiasi altro parente od affine con lui convivente;

persons covered. affine...for now I have put "related person". I think a different word would have been used to mean dependants. In my opinion, parente covers this. Any additional insight as to the difference in Italian between affine and parente greatly appreciated.
pcjohnz
Italy
Clarification request(s) and response
beatbeat: 3:37pm Nov 9, 2006: Secondo me o sei parente o non lo sei, quindi "affine" è sbagliato qui. Io per "parente o affine con lui convivente" metterei semplicemente "parente o altra persona con lui convivente".
pcjohnz: 3:40pm Nov 9, 2006: what you suggest makes sense but this would mean a roommate is also covered by the policy (a company policy on behalf or workers)
beatbeat: 3:42pm Nov 9, 2006: Scusa, ho verificato, a livello giuridico è come propone sotto silvia b.: parente acquisito di un coniuge rispetto all’altro coniuge, ad es. il cognato o il suocero; estens., parente. Non lo sapevo.

relative by marriage
Explanation:
Hi Paul,

The difference between "parente" and "Affine" is that a "parente" is someone you are directly related to whereas an "affine" is someone you are related to by marriage.



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Note added at 11 mins (2006-11-09 15:44:17 GMT)
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This is the De Mauro definition:

dir., parente acquisito di un coniuge rispetto all’altro coniuge, ad es. il cognato o il suocero; estens., parente


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Note added at 19 mins (2006-11-09 15:52:42 GMT)
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Paul - I've just learned something new - "affine" also exists in English:

affine
A noun
1 affine

(anthropology) kin by marriage


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Ivana Micheli
United Kingdom
Note from asker to answerer
This wording works exactly. Thanks to all for clarifying the concept.
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Summary of answers provided
5 +2in-lawssilvia b
5 +2relative by marriage
Ivana Micheli
5relative-in-lawScience451


  


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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
in-laws

Explanation:
affinita': parentela tra un coniuge e i consanguinei dell'altro (Devoto-Oli)

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Note added at 16 mins (2006-11-09 15:49:42 GMT)
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esattamente, Paul:

consanguinei vs. affini/parenti acquisiti

nel linguaggio comune per parenti si intendono anche i "parenti acquisiti", ma in un'assicurazione e' necessario che non ci sia ambiguita'.

silvia b
Italy
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: relative by blood (parente) or by marriage (affine)?

Asker: obviously my question is not about the final wording but the concept


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Cristina Giannetti
13 mins
  -> grazie!

agree Maureen D'Argenio
36 mins
  -> grazie!
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
relative by marriage

Explanation:
Hi Paul,

The difference between "parente" and "Affine" is that a "parente" is someone you are directly related to whereas an "affine" is someone you are related to by marriage.



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Note added at 11 mins (2006-11-09 15:44:17 GMT)
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This is the De Mauro definition:

dir., parente acquisito di un coniuge rispetto all’altro coniuge, ad es. il cognato o il suocero; estens., parente


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Note added at 19 mins (2006-11-09 15:52:42 GMT)
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Paul - I've just learned something new - "affine" also exists in English:

affine
A noun
1 affine

(anthropology) kin by marriage




Ivana Micheli
United Kingdom
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 22
Note from asker to answerer
This wording works exactly. Thanks to all for clarifying the concept.
Notes to answerer
Asker: relative, direct or by marriage (I'll check this but I think that is standard wording and works well )


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Cristina Giannetti
9 mins

agree clarinet3: agree
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40 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
relative-in-law

Explanation:

Gradi di parentela e articolo 33 legge 104
La affinità è il vincolo fra un coniuge ed i parenti dell’altro coniuge (gli affini di ciascun coniuge non sono affini fra di loro). ...
www.cgil.it/ufficiohandicap/Notiziario/gradi_di_parentela_e... - 10k
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Prohibited Marriages - [ Traduci questa pagina ]
Although a man may marry his sister-in-law and a woman may marry her brother-in-law, other ***relatives-in-law*** may marry provided they are at least 21 years of ...
www.weddingguide.co.uk/articles/legal/prohibited.asp - 26k

Undisclosed Partners: List of Prohibited Relationships - Marriage - [ Traduci questa pagina ]
Throughout the United Kingdom and Guernsey, Jersey and the Isle of Man, the law prohibits certain blood relatives, step relatives and **relatives-in-law** from ...
www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/ccmmanual/ccm15030.htm - 10k

Service 317 - Marriage arrangement and ceremony - [ Traduci questa pagina ]
Although a man may marry his sister-in-law and a woman may marry her brother-in-law, other **relatives-in-law** may marry provided that: ...
www.esd.org.uk/.../Content.aspx?lgsl=317&Type=MediatedServi... - 53k


Science451
Italy
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 2
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