in via principale

English translation: First and foremost (but note potential alternatives, according to context)

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Italian term or phrase:	in via principale
English translation:	First and foremost (but note potential alternatives, according to context)
Entered by:	WendellR

13:55 Nov 6, 2007

Italian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)

Italian term or phrase: in via principale

I'm going to spend my last kudoz question of the day on this phrase, because what's in the glossaries is neither convincing nor satisfying in any of the languages I read.

This is a heading at the beginning of the prayer that comes at the end of a summons. The attorney asks the judge to reject Respondents' claims to the contrary and then

IN VIA PRINCIPALE

to do a number of things for the benefit of the Petitioner.

There's nothing here that has to do with "constitutional legitimacy" or any of the other proposed translations in the glossaries, and I'm wondering if it isn't simply a straightforward "First and foremost". Or, failing that, perhaps "Petitions as follows" or "Requests relief as follows".

Thoughts, law-heads?

W.

WendellR KudoZ activity Questions: 118 (none open) (17 closed without grading) Answers: 116
Local time: 09:11

First and foremost

Explanation:
Wendell, I was not aware of what the glossary says, but you make an excellent case for first and foremost. Your other choices would appear to depend a lot more on context and that remains to be seen since we have no actual case to base it on. I would say that you have highlighted the problem of any glossary, especially one constructed the way we have compiled ProZ. Buon lavoro!

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Vittorio Felaco
Local time: 03:11

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Thanks, Vittorio!
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First and foremost

Vittorio Felaco

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Joanna M Cas (X)

principally

James (Jim) Davis

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First and foremost

Vittorio Felaco
Local time: 03:11
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Italian
PRO pts in category: 54

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Thanks, Vittorio!

1 hr confidence:

principally

Explanation:
An alternative, unless some expert knows a specific legal equivalent.

James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 11:11
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Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 1667

230 days confidence:

see note

Explanation:
I know this is closed now - but it occurs to me to say - in pleadings generally in English we don't have the equivalent of this term. This is because, to the best of my recollection, in pleadings we say, generally:

And the Claimant claims

1 (what he wants)

2 In the alternative (what he'll take as an alternative)

But I think if you have to translate the Italian then first and foremost would the best option. An alternative suggestion, 'principally', suggests (to me) that in fact the claimant might want more than one thing, ie also wanting other, less important or weighty, remedies on the side.
I'm not sure what happens to answers/comments like this that are written some time after, so if I have wasted anyone's time or irritated them, apologies!

Joanna M Cas (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:11
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 36

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