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ammesso e non concesso

English translation: even if we grant for the sake of argument that...

16:35 Feb 12, 2005
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Criminal
Italian term or phrase: ammesso e non concesso
The context is a judgment in criminal proceedings at the Federal Criminal Court (Corte delle Assise Criminali) in Ticino, Switzerland.

There are two instances of the phrase:

[…] ammesso e non concesso che ancora a fine di maggio 2003 essi nutrissero fieri dubbi sulla sua attività di riciclatore di narcodollari […]

Dall' insieme delle circostanze (ammesso e non concesso che ancora nessuno ne parlasse apertamente) era ormai più che evidente che […]

The obvious translation would be "admitted and not conceded", but I can't help thinking that these two verbs are synonymous in this context. If the Defendants are "admitting" that certain facts are true, then surely they are at the same time "conceding" that they are true. Or am I missing something?

I would be grateful for any guidance as to how to interpret the phrase as a whole.
Alan Thompson
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:15
English translation:even if we grant for the sake of argument that...
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KLS: You\'re very welcome ;-)
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Andreina Baiano
Italy
Local time: 01:15
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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
even if we grant for the sake of argument that...


Explanation:
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Note added at 8 mins (2005-02-12 16:44:02 GMT)
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http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&q="even if we grant for th...

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Note added at 2 hrs 33 mins (2005-02-12 19:08:46 GMT) Post-grading
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KLS: You\'re very welcome ;-)

Andreina Baiano
Italy
Local time: 01:15
Native speaker of: Italian
PRO pts in category: 4

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