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Slang | | Italian term or phrase: post-sessantottino | | I am translating a piece for somebody who describes their dress sense as occasionally 'post-sessantottino'. I have so far figured out that 'sessantottino' means somebody who was involved in the activities of 1968 so possibly it means something like 'old hippy'. However I have also seen this man dress and he looks nothing like the British/American concept of an old hippy. Any suggestion? |
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| | English translation:"post 68" | Explanation:
This will never mean a lot to anybody who has not either experienced or read about the history of those years. Personally, at an Isle of Wight festival in those years, Italian, French and German people at the event explained quite clearly to us "love is all you need" English hippies, that the '68 movement was a very different phenomenon in their countries and of course we knew that anyway from reading the news (a certain Jean Paul Sartre played a prominent role). So I think that a simple "post 68" will do, unless some fashion expert knows more on the subject of course.
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In response to Mirra's "I could find NO EVIDENCE AT ALL of 'post 68'"
The sense in which I have suggested it is simply that of "after the '68 movement, phenomenon, style, fashion or however you wish to label it" giving the Isle of Wight and Jean Paul Sartre as a general pointer. Of course I didn't post without checking against empirical evidence on Google. The problem is eliminating instances of "Post #68" and "American legion post 68", but there are plenty of examples if you care to sift and look and I do find your capital letters, and emphatic tone, suggesting that I post of the top of my head offensive Mirra_. However, I thought the phrase sufficiently well known and self evident, not to need references. I was evidently mistaken:
1) A reputable UK university.
Title
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Media Perspectives on Post-68 Germany. Code, Semester ... The course investigates the relationship between media and society in post-68 Germany. ...
www.hip.humanities.soton.ac.uk/_filestore/unit_docs/germ200... -
2) Book Title
Amazon.ca: Women's Representations Of The Occupation In Post-'68 ...
France: Claire Gorrara: Books.
www.amazon.ca/Womens-Representations-Occupation-Post-68-Fra... - 89k -
3) University college London
The Historian, the Poet, and the Semiologist: Perspectives on the ...
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Perspectives on the Post 68 Decade. Robert Lumley. (University College London). It is May 1968. The barricades go up in the Latin quarter of ...
congress70.library.uu.nl/publish/articles/000015/article.pdf - Similar pages - Note this
4) Forum chat title
Post '68
I once heard it said that most mainstream histories of the Vietnam war don't cover the post '68 period very in depth or even at all in some cases. ...
www.westerncivforum.com/index.php?topic=74.0 - 35k - Cached - Similar
5) Title of a paper for a convention on:
Alternative Jurisprudence? Lawyers, Judges, and Legal Scholars and ...
5 Apr 2008 ... Lawyers, Judges, and Legal Scholars and the Emergence of a "Legal Left" in Post-68 Italy" Paper presented at the annual meeting of the The ...
www.allacademic.com/meta/p181804_index.html
6) Another UK university paper
Thursday 17 April 2008
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“The Post-‘68 Storm: Student and Police Memories in Authoritarian Brazil”. Claire Brewster (Newcastle, UK). Mexico 1968: A crisis of national identity ...
www.german.leeds.ac.uk/gsm/68 programme Apr.doc -
7) Blog on art
LabforCulture - Blogs : Blog entry
26 May 2008 ... The ideological re-framing of the critique of the post '68 generation of artists from former Yugoslavia develops in parallel with the ...
www.labforculture.org/en/labforculture/blogitem/27536 - 37k - Cached -
8) American sociological association
The Institutional ‘Missing Links’ in the Genealogical Tree ...
... between the Durkheimian school of the pre-WWI period and the post-‘68 generation of poststructuralists (see eg Gane 1991a and b; Richman 2002).
www.allacademic.com/meta/p105555_index.html
9) Political magazine article
Dissent Magazine
That statement may be truer for the post-’68 left than for any of its predecessors. ... The long march of the post-’68 left made its influence felt in many ...
www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1152
10) Italian political movement at MIT, Massachusetts
Autonomia - The MIT Press
The only first-hand document and contemporaneous analysis of the most innovative post-'68 radical movement in the West, Italy's creative, futuristic, ...
mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=11312 - 16k -
And many, many more if you care to look. |
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35 mins confidence: early seventies style / early 70s style
Explanation:
maybe? Can you give any indication of how he dresses? Big shirt collars, flares?
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some 'fine' (though not Italian) examples on this page...http://www.howardblaikleysongs.com/
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1 hr confidence: post-soixante-huitard style
Explanation:
post-settantottino implies a cultural and political connotation stronger than late sixties or early seventies style, in my opinion
http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&q=post-soixante-huitard st...
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The Protester
(1) “Hats are always in,” says RNCNotWelcome.org, an activist Website that urges protesters to wear baseball caps to avoid surveillance cameras. But baseball caps are so boy-band. Instead, suggests Bouwer, why not take a tip from Madonna (or Monica) and don a stylishly subversive French beret? Very soixante-huitard.
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/rnc/9690/
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an Anglo-American option maybe post-babyboomer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Boomers
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http://www.agewave.com/media_files/wwd.html
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10 hrs confidence: peer agreement (net): +1 "post 68"
Explanation:
This will never mean a lot to anybody who has not either experienced or read about the history of those years. Personally, at an Isle of Wight festival in those years, Italian, French and German people at the event explained quite clearly to us "love is all you need" English hippies, that the '68 movement was a very different phenomenon in their countries and of course we knew that anyway from reading the news (a certain Jean Paul Sartre played a prominent role). So I think that a simple "post 68" will do, unless some fashion expert knows more on the subject of course.
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Note added at 1 day30 mins (2008-08-13 16:58:40 GMT)
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In response to Mirra's "I could find NO EVIDENCE AT ALL of 'post 68'"
The sense in which I have suggested it is simply that of "after the '68 movement, phenomenon, style, fashion or however you wish to label it" giving the Isle of Wight and Jean Paul Sartre as a general pointer. Of course I didn't post without checking against empirical evidence on Google. The problem is eliminating instances of "Post #68" and "American legion post 68", but there are plenty of examples if you care to sift and look and I do find your capital letters, and emphatic tone, suggesting that I post of the top of my head offensive Mirra_. However, I thought the phrase sufficiently well known and self evident, not to need references. I was evidently mistaken:
1) A reputable UK university.
Title
File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
Media Perspectives on Post-68 Germany. Code, Semester ... The course investigates the relationship between media and society in post-68 Germany. ...
www.hip.humanities.soton.ac.uk/_filestore/unit_docs/germ200... -
2) Book Title
Amazon.ca: Women's Representations Of The Occupation In Post-'68 ...
France: Claire Gorrara: Books.
www.amazon.ca/Womens-Representations-Occupation-Post-68-Fra... - 89k -
3) University college London
The Historian, the Poet, and the Semiologist: Perspectives on the ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Perspectives on the Post 68 Decade. Robert Lumley. (University College London). It is May 1968. The barricades go up in the Latin quarter of ...
congress70.library.uu.nl/publish/articles/000015/article.pdf - Similar pages - Note this
4) Forum chat title
Post '68
I once heard it said that most mainstream histories of the Vietnam war don't cover the post '68 period very in depth or even at all in some cases. ...
www.westerncivforum.com/index.php?topic=74.0 - 35k - Cached - Similar
5) Title of a paper for a convention on:
Alternative Jurisprudence? Lawyers, Judges, and Legal Scholars and ...
5 Apr 2008 ... Lawyers, Judges, and Legal Scholars and the Emergence of a "Legal Left" in Post-68 Italy" Paper presented at the annual meeting of the The ...
www.allacademic.com/meta/p181804_index.html
6) Another UK university paper
Thursday 17 April 2008
File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
“The Post-‘68 Storm: Student and Police Memories in Authoritarian Brazil”. Claire Brewster (Newcastle, UK). Mexico 1968: A crisis of national identity ...
www.german.leeds.ac.uk/gsm/68 programme Apr.doc -
7) Blog on art
LabforCulture - Blogs : Blog entry
26 May 2008 ... The ideological re-framing of the critique of the post '68 generation of artists from former Yugoslavia develops in parallel with the ...
www.labforculture.org/en/labforculture/blogitem/27536 - 37k - Cached -
8) American sociological association
The Institutional ‘Missing Links’ in the Genealogical Tree ...
... between the Durkheimian school of the pre-WWI period and the post-‘68 generation of poststructuralists (see eg Gane 1991a and b; Richman 2002).
www.allacademic.com/meta/p105555_index.html
9) Political magazine article
Dissent Magazine
That statement may be truer for the post-’68 left than for any of its predecessors. ... The long march of the post-’68 left made its influence felt in many ...
www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1152
10) Italian political movement at MIT, Massachusetts
Autonomia - The MIT Press
The only first-hand document and contemporaneous analysis of the most innovative post-'68 radical movement in the West, Italy's creative, futuristic, ...
mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=11312 - 16k -
And many, many more if you care to look.
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