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città arroccata

English translation: fortified town

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Italian term or phrase:città arroccata
English translation:fortified town
Entered by: Tom in London

11:52 Feb 23, 2009
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Tourism & Travel / Turismo
Italian term or phrase: città arroccata
The sentence reads: Visita Asolo, la città Arroccata. My question is does arroccata mean perched above/on, and if so as they don't actually finish the sentence by saying what it's perched on/above does anyone have any bright ideas for a suitably vague translation? Alternatively could it mean walled town? TIA
Hilary Bruce
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:02
fortified
Explanation:
http://www.asolo.it/ITA/archivio/monumenti/mura.html

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Note added at 12 mins (2009-02-23 12:04:29 GMT)
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"arroccata" in this context means that as well as the castle itself (la rocca) the town was also fortified (i.e. turned into a "rocca")

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-02-23 13:39:19 GMT)
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let's try this again <sigh> Click on the link and read what is written there.

http://www.asolo.it/ITA/archivio/monumenti/mura.html

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-02-23 13:47:41 GMT)
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I actually know Asolo quite well....
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Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:02
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Thank you Tom
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3hill-top town
Claire Restivo
4 +2fortress town
Cedric Randolph
5 +1fortified
Tom in London
4high on the hills
AeC2009
4a city watched over by its (lofty) fortress
Michael Korovkin
4secured, protected town
Giovanni Pizzati (X)
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transl79 (X)

Discussion entries: 2





  

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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
fortress town


Explanation:
dictionary definition - sorry my dictionary doesn't let me cut and paste. lots of references in Google though

Cedric Randolph
Italy
Local time: 23:02
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agree  BrigitteHilgner: Quite a number of google hits for "fortress town",Asolo
8 mins
agree  Sele
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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
high on the hills


Explanation:
In this case, in my opinion, *arroccata* has more of "perched above" (this term definitely unusable here) and less of fortified, walled, town, though in effect, Asolo has a castle and walls.

The meaning, IMO, is "overlooking from high on the hills", as can be inferred also here:

http://www.marcadoc.it/vedere/asolo.htm

http://www.asolohouse.com/asolo_house.html

AeC2009
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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
a city watched over by its (lofty) fortress


Explanation:
Arrigo ha assolutamente raggione: Asolo non è fortificata affatto. Meno ancora è una città-fortezza (sono stato lì, l'ho visto di persona). E' semplicemente VEGLIATA sopra da una fortezza devo dire impressionante. E dunque quie ci vuole un gloss romantico... come, infatti, suggerisco.

Michael Korovkin
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Local time: 23:02
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kimberly De Haan: I agree that this is the idea here
1 hr
  -> Thanks Kim
disagree  Tom in London: there was a complete circuit of walls. which still partially exist. Foreseeing polemics, I even posted a link.
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
secured, protected town


Explanation:
.... on a mountain top.

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Note added at 29 min (2009-02-23 12:21:23 GMT)
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Lemma rocca 1
Sillabazione/Fonetica [ròc-ca]
Etimologia Lat. volg. *ro°cca(m), di origine mediterranea
Vedi Sinonimi e contrari

Definizione s. f.
1 fortezza che nei centri abitati d'età medievale e rinascimentale era costruita nel luogo più elevato, per lo più naturalmente difeso da pareti scoscese; era la sede del signore e il luogo di rifugio della popolazione in caso di assalti esterni o di assedi: essere forte, saldo come una rocca, essere molto resistente | nei toponimi designa borgate o piccole città sorte intorno a fortezze o costruite in luogo elevato: Rocca Sinibalda, Rocca di Papa. DIM. rocchetta



Giovanni Pizzati (X)
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Local time: 23:02
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
hill-top town


Explanation:
If there is no wall, it's just a hill-top town. If it has a wall, I agree with Tom's offering.

Claire Restivo
Local time: 22:02
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  manducci
19 mins
  -> Thank you manducci...
agree  Monia Di Martino: That's what it means yes.
2 hrs
agree  davenstephy
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
fortified


Explanation:
http://www.asolo.it/ITA/archivio/monumenti/mura.html

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Note added at 12 mins (2009-02-23 12:04:29 GMT)
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"arroccata" in this context means that as well as the castle itself (la rocca) the town was also fortified (i.e. turned into a "rocca")

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-02-23 13:39:19 GMT)
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let's try this again <sigh> Click on the link and read what is written there.

http://www.asolo.it/ITA/archivio/monumenti/mura.html

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-02-23 13:47:41 GMT)
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I actually know Asolo quite well....

Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:02
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Grading comment
Thank you Tom

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agree  simona dachille
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  -> thanks simona
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Reference

Reference information:
this link might help


    Reference: http://www.asolo.it/ENG/index.php
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