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violento divertimento

German translation: derber Humor, derbe Unterhaltung

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Italian term or phrase:violento divertimento
German translation:derber Humor, derbe Unterhaltung
Entered by: Beate Simeone-Beelitz

10:52 Apr 25, 2008
Italian to German translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature
Italian term or phrase: violento divertimento
Weitere Themen des Workshops über die Commedia dell'Arte:
Un teatro di sulle meravigliose differenze delle esperienze umane
Beate Simeone-Beelitz
Local time: 18:29
derber Humor
Explanation:
...als Alternative zu "beißender Humor".

Ich verbinde die Commedia dell'Arte in erster Linie unbedingt nicht mit beißendem Humor (wie z.B. in Satiren), sondern eher mit derben Späßen und überzogenen Karikaturen der menschlichen Schwächen, wie schon Zea_Mays geschrieben hat.
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Dra Molnar
Italy
Local time: 18:29
Grading comment
danke
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1derber Humor
Dra Molnar
4boshafte Schadenfreude // heftiges, derbes Sichlustigmachen
Zea_Mays
3gewaltsame Unterhaltung
Barbara Wiebking
3wilde /stürmische / heftige Art der Unterhaltung
inkweaver
3hier: Lachen, das im Hals stecken bleibt
Michaela Mersetzky
3 -1blutige Geistesverwirrung(en)
Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A.


  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
blutige Geistesverwirrung(en)


Explanation:
Blutige Geistesverwirrungen allenthalben und weltweit gespannte Verschwörernetzwerke. ... aus dem Geiste der Commedia dell‘Arte war wieder einmal umsonst. ...


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Note added at 4 mins (2008-04-25 10:57:28 GMT)
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Divertimento als "Geistesverwirrung" rende meglio, perchè proprio questo scatena il divertimento ;-)


    Reference: http://images.zeit.de/text/2004/44/L-R_9fhmkorf
Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A.
Austria
Local time: 18:29
Native speaker of: Italian
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Zea_Mays: nessuna attinenza con il testo (nel documento del link compare la Commedia dell'Arte, ma non c'entra niente con un "sanguinario stato confusionale") // Capirei "Verwirrung stiften" (ma blutige??); Geistesverwirrung è e rimane confusione mentale.
2 hrs
  -> No, nessuna attinenza con il testo, solo una proposta ed un termine di paragone. Comunque nella Commedia dell'Arte il divertimento violento si potrebbe interpretare anche come blutige Geistesverwirrung(en). Questione di interpretazioni...
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gewaltsame Unterhaltung


Explanation:
Vielleicht so etwas wie Unterhaltung um der Unterhaltung willen?

Example sentence(s):
  • Die oft recht gewaltsam konstruierten Lösungen nehmen weder auf die Moral noch auf die Gefühle der Betroffenen Rücksicht.
  • Das hauptsächliche Ziel dieser Theaterform ist die vordergründige Unterhaltung; ...

    Reference: http://www.theater-info.de/commedia_dell_arte.html
Barbara Wiebking
Germany
Local time: 18:29
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
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wilde /stürmische / heftige Art der Unterhaltung


Explanation:
So würde ich es eher verstehen.

inkweaver
Germany
Local time: 18:29
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hier: Lachen, das im Hals stecken bleibt


Explanation:
mein Vorschlag:
ein Theater über ...., bei dem einem das Lachen im Hals stecken bleibt.



Michaela Mersetzky
Italy
Local time: 18:29
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boshafte Schadenfreude // heftiges, derbes Sichlustigmachen


Language variant: derbes Divertissement // Fopperei

Explanation:
...

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Note added at 2 Stunden (2008-04-25 13:33:58 GMT)
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Das ginge natürlich auch, v.a. "beissend". :-)

"Humor" ist m.E. für die Commedia dell'Arte etwas "weich", da es recht derb und grob zugehen kann - z.B. Knüppeleien, stark überzogene Karikaturen etc.
Dabei werden die menschlichen (allzu menschlichen...) Schwächen schonungslos bloßgestellt und belacht.
;-)

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Note added at 4 Stunden (2008-04-25 15:08:09 GMT)
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Vllt. bissige/boshafte/derbe Spaßmacherei?

Zea_Mays
Italy
Local time: 18:29
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in ItalianItalian
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Notes to answerer
Asker: und wenn ich es mit beissendem Humor übersetze?

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derber Humor


Explanation:
...als Alternative zu "beißender Humor".

Ich verbinde die Commedia dell'Arte in erster Linie unbedingt nicht mit beißendem Humor (wie z.B. in Satiren), sondern eher mit derben Späßen und überzogenen Karikaturen der menschlichen Schwächen, wie schon Zea_Mays geschrieben hat.

Dra Molnar
Italy
Local time: 18:29
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 8
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danke

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agree  Ina Glörfeld Salzano: gefällt mir am besten
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