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English translation: convex pitched

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Japanese term or phrase:	起りをもつ
English translation:	convex pitched

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19:07 Dec 16, 2009

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Architecture

Japanese term or phrase: 起りをもつ

I am trying to figure out what 起りをもつ means as it is used to explain the characteristics of the hipped roof (yosemune yane) of a historical Japanese structure. It appears as follows:

「起りをもつ瓦葺の寄棟屋根を戴き、。。。」

If more context is needed, just let me know. All suggestions are welcome.

Thank you.

steve henderson KudoZ activity Questions: 18 (none open) (1 closed without grading) Answers: 1 United States
Local time: 17:14

convex pitched

Explanation:
Perhaps something like:

…<the building> has a convex pitched hip tiled roof (“Yosemuneyane”).

There is a note in ja.wiki on屋根 which talks about there being 2 types of trad J roofs concave「そり」 and covex 「むくり」 **(起り)」** roofs and has a nice diagram.
When talking about roof angles/slopes I believe `pitch` is a good word choice (see Concise Oxford:>> Pitch *10 [often as adj.] pitched (chiefly with reference to a roof) slope….etc
Hope this helps. :)

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DIY
Japan
Local time: 09:14

Grading comment

Thank you, DIY. Having followed up cinefil and Rod's references, and given the audience for this particular document, I think your choice of words will work well.
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4 +1

convex curve that slopes upward from eave ends

Rod Anderson

convex pitched

DIY

Raised roof

Ivan Vatovic

Summary of reference entries provided

FYR

cinefil

Discussion entries: 2

Answers

1 hr confidence:

Raised roof

Explanation:
By the kanji I assume it means raised roof (as opposed to flat roof). I am only guessing though

Ivan Vatovic
Serbia
Local time: 02:14
Native speaker of: Serbian

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

convex curve that slopes upward from eave ends

Explanation:
起りをもつ瓦葺の寄棟屋根 is
hipped tile-roof w/ convex curve that slopes upward from eave ends

Kind of long but..

Reference: http://www.aisf.or.jp/~jaanus/deta/y/yane.htm
Reference: http://www.watanabesato.co.jp/pavements/knowledges/cbuilding...

Rod Anderson
Japan
Local time: 09:14
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English

5 hrs confidence:

convex pitched

DIY
Japan
Local time: 09:14
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English
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Thank you, DIY. Having followed up cinefil and Rod's references, and given the audience for this particular document, I think your choice of words will work well.

Reference comments

5 hrs

Reference: FYR

Reference information:
起り
camber
建築用語辞典、技報堂出版

http://www.aiu-plan.co.jp/AIU_page/document/words/wordC3.htm

cinefil
Japan
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Japanese
PRO pts in category: 11

Note to reference poster

Asker: Thank you, cinefil. This is very helpful. Steve

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