nashiuru

23:04 Apr 27, 2008 

Thank you, Aogara, for your understanding. I understand what you and Humbird mean about "youi ni" and "nashiuru" being related. For myself, I really just wanted to clarify the meaning of "nashiuru" by itself, but I understand your points. I will read more on the Kudoz rules Thank you.

21:24 Apr 27, 2008 

In any case, I understand asking questions and choosing the best answer isn’t always straightforward and easy. Anyway, welcome to Proz :-)

21:15 Apr 27, 2008 

Making glossary entries, I think, shouldn’t be the primary concern in Kudoz. And, to me, they’re only useful in cases where terms won’t have to be substantially changed by context. That’s why machine translation can’t beat us human translators ;-)

21:14 Apr 27, 2008 

Hi, Top Translation and Humbird. I think Humbird’s point that “nashiuru” and “youi ni” are intricately related is important, and some parts of phrases sometimes can’t be solely extracted.

21:40 Apr 26, 2008 

Hi Humbird. Actually, I did ask "nashiuru" as a single word and then in the box on the bottom I added the rest in explanation as you suggested. At least, that is what I tried to do. If you look at the top of this page above your first note, you will see that it says "Japanese term or phrase: nashiuru" and then underneath that in the lighter yellow area, it has the rest of the sentence as an explanation. So, I was trying to do it the way you suggested, but maybe I did it wrong. Maybe I didn't put the explanation in the right place. I just joined ProZ a few days ago and this is the first question I entered so I probably didn't do it too well. I will follow your advice and review the Kudoz rules. Thanks. And Aogara, if my mistaken method of asking the question misled you, I really am sorry.

19:57 Apr 26, 2008 

Hi JTS! You sound like you are upset by my remark. No need. You could have asked "nashiuru" as a sigle word, and add the rest in explanation to keep the matter simple. Reviewsing KudoZ rule may help.

07:04 Apr 26, 2008 

Humbird, you say that I should have asked for the entire sentence, but then you say that "youi ni" itself is "hardly a professional level". Well, you're right. Of course, "youi ni" is not a pro-level term. Of course I know what "youi ni" means. Now, do you see why I didn't ask for the entire sentence? I didn't need to ask for the meaning of "youi ni". I really just wanted to know what nashiuru meant because I wasn't completely sure. Then I added the whole phrase just so people would see the context. I really liked Aogara's answer a lot. It was very helpful and I wish I could've rewarded Aogara for that answer. However, I chose Tony's answer because I thought to myself that if this is going to go into a glossary, Tony's answer is the more exact match for the term "nashiuru" by itself even though Aogara gave a wonderful explanation for word used in context. If someone looks up "nashiuru" in the glossary, Tony's definition is a good match whereas Aogara's definition, for one thing, uses the word "something" which could imply to someone that "nashiuru" is a noun. Not to really criticize Aogara's explanation, though. As an explanation of the example phrase as a whole it was great and very helpful. Thank you, Aogara!

06:08 Apr 26, 2008 

I voted for "Non pro" since translation for "youi ni" itself is hardly a professional level. If for the whole sentence, then might be.

06:05 Apr 26, 2008 

You should have asked for entire sentence, because "youi ni" and "nashiuru" is intricately related. The answer you have chosen does not mean much unless entire sentence is translated. No enough space to explain.