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技能系列

English translation: (skilled) and technical worker


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10:59 Mar 16, 2009
Japanese to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Human Resources
Japanese term or phrase: 技能系列
Hello,

there are two differents types of labour forces within an organisation of Research and Development.

1. 技能系列 (技能系)
2. 事技系列 (事技系)

I would like to know the translation of these labour types. I know it is somewhat like Blue-Collar and White-Collar, but it is not the same.

Help would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,
Franky
OT-Franky
English translation:(skilled) and technical worker
Explanation:
vs. (managerial) and professional worker.

It's kind of "doer vs thinker", isn't it? For 技能系, I thought of R&D technicians immediately. For 事技系, the boundary seems fuzzy, hence the word managerial in the parentheses. The wording may also vary depending on the company this R&D belongs.
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4 +1Blue-collar workers
Matthew Francis
3(skilled) and technical worker
RieM
2technically skilled workforceV N Ganesh
1manual workerspatent_pending


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Blue-collar workers


Explanation:
技能系列 is blue collar workers
事務系列 (note spelling) would be adminstrative/white collar

Matthew Francis
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neutral  humbird: Not sure this means "low skill" workers such as "blue color".
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technically skilled workforce


Explanation:
事技系列-workforce with techno-commercial background

A group of people with Techno-Commercial Background along with committed work force and latest machines from Japan work round the clock and round the year ...
www.leplindia.co.in/company.html - 16k -

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(skilled) and technical worker


Explanation:
vs. (managerial) and professional worker.

It's kind of "doer vs thinker", isn't it? For 技能系, I thought of R&D technicians immediately. For 事技系, the boundary seems fuzzy, hence the word managerial in the parentheses. The wording may also vary depending on the company this R&D belongs.


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manual workers


Explanation:
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「事技職」
設計、調達、管理など高度な専門知識を必要とする職種。
頭脳労働系。
「技能職」
製造、加工、組立など手作業を必要とする職種。
肉体労働系。
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q108...
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Under the pretext of division of labour, we have sharply separated the brain worker from the manual worker.
http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu:16080/Anarchist_Archives/kropotki...


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Note added at 12時間 (2009-03-16 23:12:27 GMT)
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manual workers include both skilled and unskilled workers
http://eurpub.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/16/1/36

A manual worker is a worker whose job principally involves physical effort, as opposed to a non-manual worker whose work normally involves intellectual endeavour (clerical and administrative workers, for example). Examples of manual workers include builders, assembly workers and streetcleaners. Manual work may be skilled, semi-skilled or unskilled.
http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/emire/IRELAND/MANUALWORKER-IR...

Manual workers include all persons engaged in manual work at the construction site, who are either directly employed by the main contractor or called upon by sub-contractors or gang leaders. They include skilled, semi-skilled and general workers.
http://www.bd.gov.hk/english/documents/pnrc/Pnrc62.pdf

Manual workers include skilled manual workers, for example, cooks, firemen, and electricians, and unskilled manual workers, such as kitchen maids, cleaners, and bus drivers.
http://oem.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/63/8/558

Manual workers include blue collar workers and white collar workers with manual work-such as nurses, waitresses and bar staff, hairdressers, etc.
http://oem.bmj.com/cgi/reprint/54/7/519.pdf

The non-manual workers include all managers, higher administrators, technicians and associated professionals, clerical employees, and shop and market sales workers. The manual workers include skilled and specialised workers, unskilled workers, as well as farm and forestry workers.
http://www.bvsde.paho.org/bvsacd/cd53/lifetime.pdf

The non-manual workers include all current and former managers and higher administrative and clerical employees, and the manual workers include skilled and specialised workers, unskilled workers as well as farm and forestry workers.
http://jech.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/55/7/494
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Note added at 12時間 (2009-03-16 23:21:52 GMT)
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事技職ではタフな交渉や調整業務、期限が決められた企画立案等に加え合理化、凝縮されたいわゆるハンドルの遊びの部分がない業務の慢性的な多さにストレスを感じている。一方技能職ではライン作業など同じ作業の繰り返しは肉体的にはきついものの仕事の量は特殊な状況を除きほぼ一定である。しかしそれ故その適性が問題になり、また組(チーム)で行う仕事であるため人間関係で悩むものが多くなる。
http://sanpo23.jp/printing/aichi/file/27.pdf


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Note added at 14時間 (2009-03-17 01:44:35 GMT)
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line and staff management
Military-type organizational structure, commonly employed in centralized large corporations. It has two separate hierarchies: (1) Line hierarchy in which the departments are revenue generators (manufacturing, selling), and their managers are responsible for achieving the organization's main objectives by executing the key functions (such as policy making, target setting, decision making); (2) Staff hierarchy, in which the departments are revenue consumers, and their managers are responsible for activities that support line functions (such as accounting, maintenance, personnel management). While both hierarchies have their own chains of command, a line manager may have direct control over staff employees but a staff manager may have no such power over the line employees. In modern practice, however, the difference in the two hierarchies is not so clear-cut and jobs often have elements of the both types of functions.
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/line-and-staff-...

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Note added at 15時間 (2009-03-17 02:02:42 GMT)
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イメージされているのはラインでの製品組み立てや加工を行うライン作業者(技能職)のことでしょうか? 基本的に大卒・院卒の事技職(スタッフ)採用の場合
http://www.nikki.ne.jp/?action=bbs&pid=27002&job_type=%B5%BB...

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Note added at 18時間 (2009-03-17 05:09:51 GMT)
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white collar worker
office worker in professional, managerial, or administrative position. Such workers typically wear shirts with white collars. Those working in factories or doing manual labor typically wear blue collars, and are therefore called blue-collar workers.
http://www.allbusiness.com/glossaries/white-collar-worker/49...


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