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English translation: zing-zing-zing


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Japanese term or phrase:ミーン ミーン
English translation:zing-zing-zing
Entered by: Alex Farrell
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13:48 Oct 29, 2010
Japanese to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / Manga
Japanese term or phrase: ミーン ミーン
This is the sound that cicadas make. The frame in the manga just shows some scenery with buildings and trees. You can't see the cicadas at all. At first I thought of "BUZZ BUZZ," but that's more like a bee or fly's wings. Then I considered "CHIRP CHIRP" like a cricket, but that sound is pretty different, too, and the reader would probably assume they were birds, not crickets. So I decided to go with "MEEN MEEN," but I'm not totally satisfied with that. Anyone have a better idea?
Alex Farrell
Japan
Local time: 13:26
zing-zing-zing
Explanation:
--- Here’s a cicada website giving the onomatopoeia version in English of “zing-zing-zing.” It's the way I hear it in English, too. (Please read below)

http://qctimes.com/news/opinion/editorial/columnists/alma-ga...
Of cicadas, Bob Yapp and Answer Book

For those of you coming to this story late, cicadas are insects whose chorus begins late in the afternoon with the ascending zing-zing-zing sound coming from the trees. The sound is made by vibrating membranes on the sides of the male's abdomen. The song has been likened to someone pressing scissors against a grinding wheel.

Here’s a great cicada website. It has great visuals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada


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Note added at 41 mins (2010-10-29 14:30:09 GMT)
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I agree with your buzz buzz (bees, flies) and chirp-chirp (crickets)...Mosquitos buzz, too. Very annoying. Japanese is loaded with onomatopoeic expressions but it's amazing how many there are in English, too!

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Note added at 54 mins (2010-10-29 14:43:11 GMT)
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--- Here are two other websites on the subject of cicadas using "zing-zing-zing" to describe the sounds that the male cicadas make:

http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20090827/articles/90827502...
Male cicadas produce the zing-zing-zing sound by vibrating membranes, known as timbals, on the sides of their abdomen. It's sweet music to the females.

http://www.extension.iastate.edu/news/2008/aug/060801.htm
The annual cicadas start the insect chorus in late afternoon with the ascending zing-zing-zing sound coming from the trees. The common annual cicada in Iowa is the species known as the scissor-grinder, a name that describes the sound made by the vibrating membranes on the sides of the abdomen of the males.

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Joyce A
Thailand
Local time: 11:26
Grading comment
Thanks! Since the cicadas are not visible in the frame, I wonder whether people will understand that it's the sound of cicadas? I might just change it to a bird sound like "CHIRP CHIRP" or "TWEET TWEET."
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zing-zing-zing


Explanation:
--- Here’s a cicada website giving the onomatopoeia version in English of “zing-zing-zing.” It's the way I hear it in English, too. (Please read below)

http://qctimes.com/news/opinion/editorial/columnists/alma-ga...
Of cicadas, Bob Yapp and Answer Book

For those of you coming to this story late, cicadas are insects whose chorus begins late in the afternoon with the ascending zing-zing-zing sound coming from the trees. The sound is made by vibrating membranes on the sides of the male's abdomen. The song has been likened to someone pressing scissors against a grinding wheel.

Here’s a great cicada website. It has great visuals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada


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Note added at 41 mins (2010-10-29 14:30:09 GMT)
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I agree with your buzz buzz (bees, flies) and chirp-chirp (crickets)...Mosquitos buzz, too. Very annoying. Japanese is loaded with onomatopoeic expressions but it's amazing how many there are in English, too!

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Note added at 54 mins (2010-10-29 14:43:11 GMT)
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--- Here are two other websites on the subject of cicadas using "zing-zing-zing" to describe the sounds that the male cicadas make:

http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20090827/articles/90827502...
Male cicadas produce the zing-zing-zing sound by vibrating membranes, known as timbals, on the sides of their abdomen. It's sweet music to the females.

http://www.extension.iastate.edu/news/2008/aug/060801.htm
The annual cicadas start the insect chorus in late afternoon with the ascending zing-zing-zing sound coming from the trees. The common annual cicada in Iowa is the species known as the scissor-grinder, a name that describes the sound made by the vibrating membranes on the sides of the abdomen of the males.



Joyce A
Thailand
Local time: 11:26
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 37
Grading comment
Thanks! Since the cicadas are not visible in the frame, I wonder whether people will understand that it's the sound of cicadas? I might just change it to a bird sound like "CHIRP CHIRP" or "TWEET TWEET."

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  humbird: That's right -- zing-zing-zing. Cicadas are ominipresent in summertime Japan, but virtually absent in American West where I live. Are there any in the East (US)?
2 hrs
  -> I've discovered that there are cicadas in Thailand, too. When I was a child, I used to collect their beautiful castings (in Japan). They look like golden brown mini space aliens. And, yes, they're in the East (US) too. Thank you, humbird! :-)

agree  Ivan Vatovic
2 hrs
  -> Thank you, Ivan! :-)

agree  Shannon Morales: Sounds good, Joyce. I definitely hear it as more of a z-something sound than "Meen-meen." @Humbird, we have them in E. Texas, but not many. It's not bothersome unless one gets inside (!) or sits right outside a window.;)
3 hrs
  -> Yes, they can get deafeningly loud when they start getting enthusiastic! "Meen-meen" seems more like a kids' chorus accusing someone of being MEAN. Like "You meany! Mean, mean! :-P Thank you, Shannon! :-)

agree  Shelley Gehret Nishi: I like Joyce's answer, and would also offer "Zee-zee-zee," which is how they sound to me on Amami. @Humbird, I lived in the Easern US many years and never heard any.
9 hrs
  -> Yes, they do sound zee-zee'ish. :-) The classic rendering for sleeping (sawing logs) in comics/manga is zzzz-zzzz, or a string of z's in one form or another. So, that can be cicadas taking an afternoon nap on a hot summer day. :-)) Thank you, Shelley! :-)
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