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English translation: verum (veritatem) imitari atque in animo habere


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02:53 Jun 28, 2008
Latin to English translations [Non-PRO]
Art/Literary - Education / Pedagogy / literature
Latin term or phrase: objectivity
just simple tranalation of this word
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English translation:verum (veritatem) imitari atque in animo habere
Explanation:
As often, it's unidiomatic and virtually impossible to represent abstract concepts in Classical Latin with nouns. Verb phrases do much better. Unless you want a motto and have very little space to write it. This is as concise as I can make it, or maybe "verum in natura et in animo quaere".
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Stephen C. Farrand
United States
Local time: 01:28
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"verum imitari atque in animo habere"
This one is good because of its flowing sound when read. Also, would look good on a scroll.I will use this and use also Joseph's suggestion.

Thanks, Stephen.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1aequitasJoseph J. Brazauskas
4verum (veritatem) imitari atque in animo habere
Stephen C. Farrand


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aequitas


Explanation:
I believe that this is the best translation, if by 'objectivity' you mean 'impartiality'. It's found in this sense in Cicero, Caesar, and Suetonius.

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Note added at 14 hrs (2008-06-28 17:13:04 GMT)
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I am not permitted to use the 'Ask Asker' feature. Thus hampered, I can only suggest translations by gleaning indications from your other comments.

'Obiectivitas' would be nonsense, as Matthew points out, not least because it does not exist as a word in good Latin. 'Aequitas' does not mean 'justice' in the sense of justice as a cardinal virtue; it means rather 'fair dealing', as when two parties to a contract keep their ends of the bargain. Its primal meaning, since it denotes the quality of being 'aequus', is 'evenness, symmetry, proportion', and then, by extension, 'fairness, equality, impartiality' in one's thinking and behaviour. I still consider it the closest English equivilent to 'objectivity' in the sense in which you define it.

The only other Latin word which means 'fairness' in this sense is 'candor', which metaphorically means 'openness (of mind), frankness, lack of bias', but 'candor' is used thus only in poetry during the classical period. It is not found so used in prose until post-Augustan times.





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Note added at 16 hrs (2008-06-28 19:50:50 GMT)
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'Fairness', peculiar as it may seem, is best rendered by 'iustitia', which is derived from 'ius' ('law, right') and bore no moral connotations until the later 2nd cent. BCE.

But 'fairness' in the sense of being free of bias or not taking sides in an issue--this would be best translated by a clause, such as 'neutri parti favens', 'favouring neither party' or, as Matthew suggested, by 'externus. (in the appropriate case, gender, and number) + 'in' + the ablative, esp. in the gerundive construction, e.g., 'externus in sceleratis iudicandis', 'fair (impartial) in judging criminals.



Joseph J. Brazauskas
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Local time: 01:28
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Asker: Thanks, Joseph. I think I didn't make my question clear enough. What I am looking for is the translation for this: TRUTH, OBJECTIVITY & FAIRNESS. I already know VERITAS for truth, AEQUITAS for fairness or justice, but being OBJECTIVE does not necessarily mean Justice. Objective in terms of thinking or reasoning without being bias or lopsided.

Asker: Oh, I didn't even realize I sent an email to you. I thought it is just a box here where I could respond. How about Objectivus? Does iut make sense?

Asker: Thank you. If TRUTH is VERITAS and OBJECTIVITY is AEQUITAS what is FAIRNESS then? Maybe if I can find the translation of FAIRNESS, it will work for what I need and the whole scenario will be completed. Muchas gracias, gentes :-D

Asker: I guess I have to go with neutri parti favens for lack of a one-word description.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Olga Cartlidge: Well, if " aequitas" has been used up, we could possibly put smth along the lines of " aequilibritas iudiciii / sententiae " ( ? ) - I am not permitted to use the Answer the Question feature by the way : - )) (... O tempora, o mores !!! : -))
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  -> Thanks, Olga.
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TRUTH, OBJECTIVITY and FAIRNESS
verum (veritatem) imitari atque in animo habere


Explanation:
As often, it's unidiomatic and virtually impossible to represent abstract concepts in Classical Latin with nouns. Verb phrases do much better. Unless you want a motto and have very little space to write it. This is as concise as I can make it, or maybe "verum in natura et in animo quaere".

Stephen C. Farrand
United States
Local time: 01:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16
Grading comment
"verum imitari atque in animo habere"
This one is good because of its flowing sound when read. Also, would look good on a scroll.I will use this and use also Joseph's suggestion.

Thanks, Stephen.
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