16:55 Dec 30, 2009 

The original sentence is addressed to anyone ("aliquis") whereas the version quoted by the patient can be understood as speaking to someone in particular (there isn't any "aliquis" and the verb "exoriare" works quite like the second person singular of the imperative). That's the only difference of meaning I can see. I hope this helps (a little).

09:36 Dec 30, 2009 

Thanks Jim. I agree, I am a psychologist myself.

06:06 Dec 30, 2009 

Freud's discussion is much more detailed than the simple difference in meaning between the two sentences -- which is minimal "Arise, avenger, from my bones" vs. "Arise, some avenger, from my bones!" (using the royal "our" for "my"). He spends several pages on the patient's associations with a number of words in the sentence. The starting point is the patient's omission of aliquis; F's focus there is not on the meaning of that word, but on the patient's associations with it (e.g. a-liquis, liquid, relinquish - etc. ).

02:18 Dec 30, 2009 

Possibly Freud would have said. If there is a mistake there is a reason. Simply put, I wnat to know the diference in meaning between the two.
An example instead of saying, I want to bill you, as a doctor, I make a slip and say, I want to kill you. There is no mistaking the difference in meaning. I hope the example helps.
In any case, I am most grateful for any comments. And yes, I am interested in any shade of meaning.

11:45 Dec 29, 2009 

You asked for the difference in meaning. Sorry if you think that's not evident from my answer. It was not obvious that you had read the book. What exactly are you asking?

11:11 Dec 29, 2009 

of this omission in the man's (not Freud's own) recall is quite exhaustive and complex. Since you have read the passage, it would be more efficient to ask a specific question about any of the Latin or German associations that are not clear to you.
The issue is not the meaning of aliquis (someone), but rather the long string of associations -- both in Latin and German -- that F's interlocutor has with both 'aliquis' and the verb 'exorior.'

11:02 Dec 29, 2009 

This was not my question. Obviously, since I am quoting Freud's mistake I have read the book and Freud's explanations. This is why I ask the question.