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Poetry & Literature | | Latin term or phrase: cum omnibus | ... Susceptumque in monasterium cum omnibus suis fratrum cohorti associavit -
It s about a monk being admitted to a monastery - of particular interest is "cum omnibus suis". I doubt whether he was accepted with all his relatives as suggested in the existing translation. Perhaps with all his belongongs ( Cf Omnia mea mecum porto).
Thank you
Medieval Latin |
|  Olga CartlidgeKudoZ activityQuestions: 275 ( 2 open) ( 10 without valid answers) ( 2 closed without grading) Answers: 119
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| | with all his/her (people) - see below | Explanation:
She associated him with (put him together with) the cohort of her brothers (monks), together with all his/her own (people/men/brothers)
(can't tell who the subject is, hence "his/her")
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Note added at 22 mins (2010-03-16 11:07:00 GMT)
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"S/he" at the beginning. The subject is not the monk.
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Note added at 23 mins (2010-03-16 11:07:40 GMT)
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Clearly not relatives in the literal sense, but in the figurative one - fratres, or perhaps people. |
| Selected response from:
Jim Tucker
United States
| Grading comment Gratias omnibus ago !
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer |
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3 mins confidence:   with all
Explanation:
This is the general meaning
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Note added at 16 mins (2010-03-16 11:01:02 GMT)
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Olga
It might mean with "all his belongings", it could also mean with his retinue or something like that, depending on how grand this character was...
| Rebecca Davis
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:31
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8
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Asker: Thank you, Rebecca - I would really appreciate the specific meaning here - with all what ? The existing translation says - admitted to the monastery with all his relatives. Would you agree that it does not stand to reason that a monk should be admitted into the order " with all his relatives ? I intent to put "with all his belongings".
Asker: "intend" of course.
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21 mins confidence: peer agreement (net): +2 with all his/her (people) - see below
Explanation:
She associated him with (put him together with) the cohort of her brothers (monks), together with all his/her own (people/men/brothers)
(can't tell who the subject is, hence "his/her")
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Note added at 22 mins (2010-03-16 11:07:00 GMT)
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"S/he" at the beginning. The subject is not the monk.
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Note added at 23 mins (2010-03-16 11:07:40 GMT)
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Clearly not relatives in the literal sense, but in the figurative one - fratres, or perhaps people.
| Jim Tucker
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 16
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| | | Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, Jim. Indeed, the subject is an abbess on whose advice the man (who happens to be Caedmon, a medieval poet) became a monk. It has also occurred to me that cum omnibus suis may relate to her people.
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