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Art/Literary - Religion / Organum Quadruplum | | Latin term or phrase: salutare dei nostri | Greetings,
In full (the punctuation is mine):
Viderunt omnes fines terre salutare dei nostril; jubilate deo, omnis terra.
I am most intrigued by this word “salutare”. What exactly is it from a grammatical point of view, please? I know it’s the same form as the infinitive, but isn't it being used as a verbal noun here?
This is particularly interesting to me as a Romanian lover, as the Latin infinitive actually developed into a verbal noun in Romanian: “salutare” is a feminine noun meaning “salutation”, although it is today only used in the plural salutări to mean “regards” e.g. “salutări mamei tale” = “(give my) regards to your mother”. However, I must stress that this applies across the board to almost all verbs, not just to “salutare”.
All the best, and many thanks,
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| | the salvation/deliverance of our god | Explanation:
Viderunt omnes fines terre salutare dei nostril; jubilate deo, omnis terra = All the territories of the earth have beheld the salvation (or 'deliverance') of our god; raise a shout of joy to god, (O) all the earth!
You are correct that the infinitive is here used as a verbal noun--as a direct object, in fact--as it very often is in Latin (and in Greek as well when preceded by the article), although this is more common in Late than in Classic usage. Cf., e.g., Appuleius, Metamorphoses, 2; Vulgate, Genesis, 49.18; Id., Psalmus 41.5, etc.
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42 mins confidence:   peer agreement (net): +1 I would agree with you that it is indeed the gerund form...
Explanation:
however, the exact translation of mediaeval Latin always seems to be open to interpretation. "Salutaris"(the adjective=healthful, wholesome, advantageous) could also be used here and it is not easy to tell what is intended to modify what. The translation on the website below is interesting: All the ends of the world have seen the salvation of our God.
Reference: http://www.naxosdirect.com/title/8.557340
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42 mins confidence: peer agreement (net): +1 the salvation/deliverance of our god
Explanation:
Viderunt omnes fines terre salutare dei nostril; jubilate deo, omnis terra = All the territories of the earth have beheld the salvation (or 'deliverance') of our god; raise a shout of joy to god, (O) all the earth!
You are correct that the infinitive is here used as a verbal noun--as a direct object, in fact--as it very often is in Latin (and in Greek as well when preceded by the article), although this is more common in Late than in Classic usage. Cf., e.g., Appuleius, Metamorphoses, 2; Vulgate, Genesis, 49.18; Id., Psalmus 41.5, etc.
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