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venerunt ad ecclesiam praeter te

English translation: they (all) came to church except for you


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Latin term or phrase:venerunt ad ecclesiam praeter te
English translation:they (all) came to church except for you
Entered by: Matt Coler
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11:53 Jun 23, 2009
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Art/Literary - Religion
Latin term or phrase: venerunt ad ecclesiam praeter te
This is from an old grammar of an indigenous language from Peru written by a Jesuit.

You can see the original text here:
http://www.uflib.ufl.edu/ufdc/?m=hd78J&i=45834

The Latin is in the first paragraph.

Thanks!
Matt Coler
Local time: 20:24
they (all) came to church except for you
Explanation:
advenire="come to"
venerunt=3rd person plural perfect indicative active
ecclesiam="church," accusative singular
praeter=preposition, "except"
te="you," accusative singular
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Richard McDorman
United States
Local time: 14:24
Grading comment
thanks a lot!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +4they (all) came to church except for you
Richard McDorman
5 +1they came to the church apart from you
Luis Antonio de Larrauri
4 +1came to the church except you
Olga D.


Discussion entries: 1





  

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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
they (all) came to church except for you


Explanation:
advenire="come to"
venerunt=3rd person plural perfect indicative active
ecclesiam="church," accusative singular
praeter=preposition, "except"
te="you," accusative singular

Richard McDorman
United States
Local time: 14:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
thanks a lot!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Stephen C. Farrand
5 mins
  -> Thank you.
agree  Veronika McLaren
17 mins
  -> Thanks, Veronika.
agree  Rebecca Garber
1 hr
  -> Gratias tibi ago, Rebecca.
agree  Joseph J. Brazauskas: Quite possible.
1 day23 hrs
  -> Thank you, Joseph.
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
came to the church except you


Explanation:
venerunt - Plural, Perfectum (=Past Perfect)

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Note added at 12 mins (2009-06-23 12:05:42 GMT)
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ecclesia may also mean "meeting, gathering"

Olga D.
Russian Federation
Local time: 23:24
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jim Tucker: OK - just note that venerunt is present perfect (= perfectum); past perfect (or "pluperfect") would be "venerAnt"
6 hrs
agree  Joseph J. Brazauskas: Quite possible.
1 day23 hrs
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21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
they came to the church apart from you


Explanation:
Some times "praeter" has the sense of "in addition to", and here this sense suites better than "except for". The sense is that, as well as you, other people came to the church.

Luis Antonio de Larrauri
Local time: 20:24
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Joseph J. Brazauskas: Or simply 'besides you', even 'together with you'. Cf. Caesar, 'Bellum Gallicum', 1.43, 3.32, and often.
1 day1 hr
  -> Thank you Joseph.
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