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Portuguese to English translations [PRO] Social Sciences - Anthropology / Indigenous people | | Portuguese term or phrase: Nambikwara do Norte | I've asked a similar question a while back, but now am looking for some clarification...
Generally, I translate such terms as:
Nambikwara do Norte: North Nambikwara
Nambikwara do sol: South Nambikwara
Nambikwara do Campo: Nambikwara do Campo (no change).
Now I client suggests that a better translation for the first two is Northern/Southern Nambikwara (as opposed to North/South Nambikwara).
Does anyone know if this is standardized? I'd appreciate reading your thoughts on this. These terms are common in all my translations...
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| | North Nambikwara | Explanation: I would go with North/South in exactly the same was as you would translate América do Norte/do Sul North/South America. On the other hand, I would use northern/southern if I were to say somehting like "the northern/southern part of Nambikwara". I'm afraid I can't give you a reason, it's just my feeling as a native speaker; maybe someone else can...
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Fiona Gonçalves Local time: 01:43
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47 mins confidence: peer agreement (net): +1 North Nambikwara
Explanation: I would go with North/South in exactly the same was as you would translate América do Norte/do Sul North/South America. On the other hand, I would use northern/southern if I were to say somehting like "the northern/southern part of Nambikwara". I'm afraid I can't give you a reason, it's just my feeling as a native speaker; maybe someone else can...
| Fiona Gonçalves Local time: 01:43 Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 4
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1 hr confidence:  peer agreement (net): +2 northern Nambikwara
Explanation: It should be written just as I have, with "northern" in lower case and "Nambikwara" capitalized.
Here is the reason: "North" or "South" would be used when the entity in question is either the name of a nation (e.g., South Africa) or state (North Dakota)or the name of a continent (North America) or province (New South Wales). If, however, you are simply referring to a section of geographical area that is not already thus defined, then the forms "northern", "southern", etc. are used.
Thus, "southern Africa" might encompass South Africa as well as Namibia and Zimbabwe, whereas "South Africa" can only refer to the country of that name.
Please see reference also.
Boa sorte.
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Following up on Mr. Handler's comment, I would add that when a *people* is being referred to, as is the case here, then the forms "northern", "southern", etc. are used (see "northern Semitic peoples: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people ) but I would still say that "northern" should be left here in lower case.
Reference: http://www.onderzoekinformatie.nl/nl/oi/nod/onderzoek/OND129...
|  Robert Forstag United States Local time: 20:43 Native speaker of: English
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1 hr confidence:  peer agreement (net): +1 Nambikwara of/ from the North(ern) region of MT
Explanation: Lévi-Strauss,C. (1944). “The social and psychological aspect of chieftainship in a primitive tribe: the Nambikwara of North-Western Mato Grosso.” Transactions of the New York Academy of Sciences series II, volume 7(1): 16-32.
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note: from the North/ the Northern region
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