pólo - pólo de serviços; pólo tecnológico

English translation: hub - services hub; technology hub

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Portuguese term or phrase:pólo - pólo de serviços; pólo tecnológico
English translation:hub - services hub; technology hub
Entered by: Muriel Vasconcellos

21:36 Mar 27, 2010
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Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Economics
Portuguese term or phrase: pólo - pólo de serviços; pólo tecnológico
o contexto é o seguinte: São Paulo gera 42% das receitas do setor de serviços no Brasil, sobressaindo-se como o grande pólo nacional de serviços. A criação de um pólo tecnológico vem sendo discutida...

Traduzi a primeira aparição como "standing out as the major national center of service"; e a segunda como "technological center". Queria saber se o uso da palavra "pole" caberia também para o inglês, já que em m dicionário encontrei "any fixed point of reference", o que é bem próximo do sentido figurado pretendido, mas na internet não encontrei uso de pole nesse sentido (exceto em textos em inglês feitos por brasileiros).

Obrigado.
GeraldoA
Brazil
Local time: 14:37
hub - services hub; technology hug
Explanation:
There are several ways to say this, but 'hub' is what I usually use. Examples on the way.

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Cute: "technology hug" - you knew I meant 'hub', didn't you?

91,400 hits for "technology hub" - examples:

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hub.html - Cached

May 29, 2009 ... RTI International Presents Strategy for Palestinian Technology Hub - RTI International has developed an economic growth strategy to help ...
www.rti.org/news.cfm?nav=196&objectid=8D595C07-5056

technology hub in the Nordic countries, with a unique mix of top-level research organisations, ... collaboration, Otaniemi as a technology hub is ...
www.oecd.org/dataoecd/51/36/37145784.pdf

The Business Technology HUB is a coalition of companies that individually service your needs, or can collectively solve business concerns, planning...
www.linkedin.com/companies/the-business-technology-hub

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60,300 hits for "services hub":

Feb 18, 2010 ... The promotion of New Zealand as a financial services hub for back-office functions for financial services firm is being touted by a number ...
news.smh.com.au/.../amp-sees-nz-as-financial-services-hub-20100218-ogec.html

Sapient makes India a global services hub | Platforms - InfoWorld
May 25, 2005 ... Sapient increasing staff in India, which already accounts for 54 percent of its global workforce.
www.infoworld.com/.../sapient-makes-india-global-services-h...

Vanuatu: an offshore financial services hub
Vanuatu, a group of 80 inhabited islands situated in the southwest Pacific - three and a half hours east of Australia and one hour west of Fiji - has been ...
asia.legalbusinessonline.com/...an...services-hub/.../19487 - Australia

Australia as a financial services hub. Chris Bowen. Tuesday Jan 19, 2010, 11:07pm. Latest News >. The Minister for Financial Services, Superannuation and ...
www.alp.org.au/news/australia-financial-services-hub

The Philippines Competitive Advantage: IT Services Hub of Asia by: Janette Toral Five years ago, the Philippines, through the Department of Trade and ...
www.digitalfilipino.com/busstrat_article.cfm?id=30

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In my experience, 'services' is one of the few words that can retain the plural when used as a premodifying noun. The singular and plural have different meanings. The plural emphasizes the individuality and diversity in the types of services.

I've been seeing the phrases "health service" and "health services" used as premodifying phrases since I started working for the World Heath Organization in 1964, and they don't mean the same thing.
"health service reform" means a reform in the way health service is provided;
"health services reform" is refers to reform in the structure of the services

The same logic applies here. A variety of different services are being pooled together at this hub. It's a subtle difference, but one that I defend from based on a long career of using both forms as premodifiers.

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Corregi o erro. Pelo menos estava bonito.
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Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 10:37
Grading comment
Obrigado pela ajuda. Foram ótimos os exemplos!
Obs.: caso seja possível corrigir, creio que houve um erro de digitação, já que escreveu technology "hug".
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1hub - services hub; technology hug
Muriel Vasconcellos
4focal point
R. Alex Jenkins
4service center / technological pole
Marlene Curtis
4service hub . . technological hub . .
David Drysdale (X)


  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
focal point


Explanation:
service focal point / technological focal point

I can see you're not comfortable with 'pole' and I can understand that. Best of luck :)

R. Alex Jenkins
Brazil
Local time: 14:37
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
service center / technological pole


Explanation:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=technological pole&btnG...

Marlene Curtis
United States
Local time: 13:37
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 72
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45 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
service hub . . technological hub . .


Explanation:
Suggestion:

service hub . . technological hub . .

David Drysdale (X)
United States
Local time: 11:37
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
hub - services hub; technology hug


Explanation:
There are several ways to say this, but 'hub' is what I usually use. Examples on the way.

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Note added at 7 mins (2010-03-27 21:44:04 GMT)
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Cute: "technology hug" - you knew I meant 'hub', didn't you?

91,400 hits for "technology hub" - examples:

#
hub.html - Cached

May 29, 2009 ... RTI International Presents Strategy for Palestinian Technology Hub - RTI International has developed an economic growth strategy to help ...
www.rti.org/news.cfm?nav=196&objectid=8D595C07-5056

technology hub in the Nordic countries, with a unique mix of top-level research organisations, ... collaboration, Otaniemi as a technology hub is ...
www.oecd.org/dataoecd/51/36/37145784.pdf

The Business Technology HUB is a coalition of companies that individually service your needs, or can collectively solve business concerns, planning...
www.linkedin.com/companies/the-business-technology-hub

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Note added at 15 mins (2010-03-27 21:52:15 GMT)
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60,300 hits for "services hub":

Feb 18, 2010 ... The promotion of New Zealand as a financial services hub for back-office functions for financial services firm is being touted by a number ...
news.smh.com.au/.../amp-sees-nz-as-financial-services-hub-20100218-ogec.html

Sapient makes India a global services hub | Platforms - InfoWorld
May 25, 2005 ... Sapient increasing staff in India, which already accounts for 54 percent of its global workforce.
www.infoworld.com/.../sapient-makes-india-global-services-h...

Vanuatu: an offshore financial services hub
Vanuatu, a group of 80 inhabited islands situated in the southwest Pacific - three and a half hours east of Australia and one hour west of Fiji - has been ...
asia.legalbusinessonline.com/...an...services-hub/.../19487 - Australia

Australia as a financial services hub. Chris Bowen. Tuesday Jan 19, 2010, 11:07pm. Latest News >. The Minister for Financial Services, Superannuation and ...
www.alp.org.au/news/australia-financial-services-hub

The Philippines Competitive Advantage: IT Services Hub of Asia by: Janette Toral Five years ago, the Philippines, through the Department of Trade and ...
www.digitalfilipino.com/busstrat_article.cfm?id=30

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Note added at 58 mins (2010-03-27 22:34:31 GMT)
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In my experience, 'services' is one of the few words that can retain the plural when used as a premodifying noun. The singular and plural have different meanings. The plural emphasizes the individuality and diversity in the types of services.

I've been seeing the phrases "health service" and "health services" used as premodifying phrases since I started working for the World Heath Organization in 1964, and they don't mean the same thing.
"health service reform" means a reform in the way health service is provided;
"health services reform" is refers to reform in the structure of the services

The same logic applies here. A variety of different services are being pooled together at this hub. It's a subtle difference, but one that I defend from based on a long career of using both forms as premodifiers.

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Note added at 3 days2 hrs (2010-03-30 23:58:20 GMT) Post-grading
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Corregi o erro. Pelo menos estava bonito.

Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 10:37
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 58
Grading comment
Obrigado pela ajuda. Foram ótimos os exemplos!
Obs.: caso seja possível corrigir, creio que houve um erro de digitação, já que escreveu technology "hug".

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  rir: hub or pole http://www.answers.com/technological pole
6 mins
  -> Thanks!

neutral  David Drysdale (X): When you use "service" as an adjective to describe "hub" you go with the singular . . Right? For example, Two week seminar, etc.
38 mins
  -> 60,200 hits for "services hub"; 56,100 for "service hub" - to me, the meaning is different. I will explain above.
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