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English translation: bulk terminal


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Portuguese term or phrase:terminal de graneis solidos
English translation:bulk terminal
Entered by: Joao Vieira
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Portuguese term or phrase: graneis solidos
I am revising an English text about a new port in ... where else, Portugal. Part of the title has not been translated, and I find myself faced with "Terminal de graneis solidos". The text also refers to "solid grain, liquid grain, and container dealing [sic!] capacities", but I have a feeling we don't actually say "solid grain" and "liquid grain" in English, certainly not when referring to cereals.

I don't speak Portuguese but have a feeling the term "graneis solidos" refers to more than just cereals (grains of sand, granules of chemicals, etc.). But what does it mean exactly, and what would ""graneis liquidos" be? TALIA for any enlightenment.
Bourth
France
Local time: 06:46
bulk
Explanation:
bulk pier/terminal
for terminal de graneis líquidos it's used chemical pier/terminal
7 yrs experience in shipping trade as water-clerk.

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Note added at 3 hrs 5 mins (2004-08-20 14:47:51 GMT)
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Just to clear out some ideas, you may use solid/liquid bulk terminal if description is required in descriptive texts. Sometimes, you have to use oil terminal, wine terminal or other if it is a terminal/pier/port for specific cargo. Bulk or Chemical is the generic names used when the terminal/port permits multiple types of solid/liquid bulk cargo. In Portugal, the number of ports for specific cargo loading/discharging are very few. Generically they serve different cargo uses (containers, bulk, RO-RO, fishing, etc.). I can remember the Port of Sines which works only with tanker vessels, i.e. chemical/oil products.

please see some references below:

Eemshaven Bulk Terminal
Eemshaven Bulk Terminal. De ... ha). Bulkgoederen. De volgende bulkgoederen kunnen op de bulk terminal worden op- en overgeslagen: Graniet; ...
www.groningen-seaports.com/bedrijvenplein/eemshavenbulkterm...

bulk-online | eDirectory | Bulk Terminal Equipment - [ Traduzir esta página ]Browse by categories: bulk-online > Bulk Ports & Shipping > Bulk Terminal Equipment. Ship & Barge Loaders(36). Ship & Barge Unloaders(63). ...
www.bulk-online.com/Cat/88.htm - 28k

State of Louisiana Department of Civil Service H4 SC 6/3/86 102630 ... - [ Traduzir esta página ]State of Louisiana Department of Civil Service H4 SC 6/3/86 102630 BULK TERMINAL WORKER 2 ... LOCATION OF WORK: Port bulk terminal facilities. ...
www.dscs.state.la.us/ClassPay/Jobspecs/102630.htm

Canton Railroad - Boston Street Bulk Terminal - [ Traduzir esta página ]BOSTON STREET BULK TERMINAL The advantages of rail economics, safety, and truck speed and reliability can be found at our Boston Street Bulk Terminal (BSBT). ...
www.cantonrr.com/bsbt.htm - 9k - 19 Ago 2004

Canal opens chemical terminal in Joliet IL - [ Traduzir esta página ]
... Canal opens chemical terminal in Joliet IL May 1, 2004 12:00 PM CANAL Terminal has opened one of the newest and most modern independent ...
bulktransporter.com/mag/ transportation_canal_opens_chemical/ - 43k

[PDF] JURONG ISLAND - EXXON CHEMICAL TERMINAL (OBR) JETTY DEPTH A/S (m) ...
Formato de arquivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Ver em HTML
Page 1. JURONG ISLAND - EXXON CHEMICAL TERMINAL (OBR) JETTY DEPTH
A/S (m) APPROACH DEPTH (m) MAX LOA (m) MAX DISPL. (tons) REMARKS ...
www.mpa.gov.sg/homepage/services/ pilotguide/jurong_island_exxon_chemical.pdf




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Note added at 3 hrs 13 mins (2004-08-20 14:55:14 GMT)
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One other thing to differentiate these two:
bulkers dock (usually) alongside a pier and tankers alongside a jetty equipped with hoses and pipelines that go directly to silos or buyer premises.
Selected response from:

Joao Vieira
Portugal
Local time: 05:46
Grading comment
Very hard to choose between your kind answer and Margarita's, but I'm awarding you the points for your perspicacity - it is indeed Aveiro! Being able to name the port concerned out of the blue is a sign of specialist knowledge in my books! I've used "SOLID bulk" since there is also ref. to an existing "liquid bulk" terminal at Aveiro.
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Summary of answers provided
5 +4solid bulk
Margarita Palatnik
5 +3bulk
Joao Vieira
5bulk solidsjudith ryan


Discussion entries: 1





  

Answers


15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
solid bulk


Explanation:
Porto de Santos - Foto terminais de granéis sólidos - PaquetáVOLTAR À CAPA. Santos and its characteristics Solid bulk terminals Paquetá Back; Back to the main map. ...
www.portodesantos.com/negocios/mapa/foto1e2-i.html -


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it\'s about the cargo type, solid bulk terminal, liquid bulk but NOT liquid grains, which makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE

USP/SIBi - DEDALUS... a implantação de adequados terminais intermodais para granéis sólidos nas margens ... implementation of suitable intermodal terminals for solid bulk cargo with ...
dedalus.usp.br:4500/ALEPH/POR/USP/USP/TES/FULL/1316570

PDF] Coastal resorts Estâncias balnearesDosya Biçimi: PDF/Adobe ... Bulk Terminal Atlanport Barreiro Liquid Bulk Terminal Tanquipor ... do Beato TMB Terminal Granéis Alimentares Beato ... do Bispo ETE Terminal Líquidos da Matinha GDL ...
www.logisnet.com/dossier/Lisbon.pdf


Portugal - Water Transportation in the area of Lisbon... We are in good conditions to operate bulk (dry and liquid) and general ... condições para a operação de granéis sólidos, granéis líquidos e carga geral ...
www.portugalvirtual.pt/0/5080dat1.html



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Port Technology - The Johor liquid bulk terminal.Expanded image - Johor Port Expansion - The Johor liquid bulk terminal.
www.port-technology.com/projects/johor/johor3.html

British Embassy, Tallinn Ports and Logistics... Service AS – liquid bulk Gatevex Estonia OÜ Muuga CT AS – container ro-ro cargo Muuga Grain terminal – grain Neste Eesti AS – liquid bulk Nybit AS ...
www.britishembassy.gov.uk/.../Front?pagename=OpenMarket/ Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1076076686542

Port of Vancouver USA - Terminal Facilities... Terminal 2 Berth 5: Liquid Bulk Dock Dock Length:400 lineal feet with dolphins Dock Height: 25 feet Berth Depth: 40 feet (mlw)*. ...
www.portvanusa.com/facilities/liquidbulk.html

PlantWeb News - Liquid bulk storage terminal automates data ...... Liquid bulk storage terminal automates data acquisition and control with Fisher-Rosemount\'s PlantWeb field-based architecture. AUSTIN ...
plantweb.emersonprocess.com/news/010_vopak.asp


Margarita Palatnik
Uruguay
Local time: 03:46
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Many thanks. You really tied with Joao; he just snuck in through perspicacity.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Henrique Serra
59 mins
  -> Obrigada, Henrique

agree  Javier Ramos
3 hrs
  -> Thanks, Javier

agree  Jonathan Morris
7 hrs
  -> Obrigada, socrates

agree  Henrique Magalhaes
32 days
  -> Obrigada, Henrique :-)
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Comment: Many thanks. You really tied with Joao; he just snuck in through perspicacity.

2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
bulk solids


Explanation:
aften this is grain, but can also be iron ore, coal, etc.

judith ryan
Brazil
Local time: 03:46
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
bulk


Explanation:
bulk pier/terminal
for terminal de graneis líquidos it's used chemical pier/terminal
7 yrs experience in shipping trade as water-clerk.

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Note added at 3 hrs 5 mins (2004-08-20 14:47:51 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Just to clear out some ideas, you may use solid/liquid bulk terminal if description is required in descriptive texts. Sometimes, you have to use oil terminal, wine terminal or other if it is a terminal/pier/port for specific cargo. Bulk or Chemical is the generic names used when the terminal/port permits multiple types of solid/liquid bulk cargo. In Portugal, the number of ports for specific cargo loading/discharging are very few. Generically they serve different cargo uses (containers, bulk, RO-RO, fishing, etc.). I can remember the Port of Sines which works only with tanker vessels, i.e. chemical/oil products.

please see some references below:

Eemshaven Bulk Terminal
Eemshaven Bulk Terminal. De ... ha). Bulkgoederen. De volgende bulkgoederen kunnen op de bulk terminal worden op- en overgeslagen: Graniet; ...
www.groningen-seaports.com/bedrijvenplein/eemshavenbulkterm...

bulk-online | eDirectory | Bulk Terminal Equipment - [ Traduzir esta página ]Browse by categories: bulk-online > Bulk Ports & Shipping > Bulk Terminal Equipment. Ship & Barge Loaders(36). Ship & Barge Unloaders(63). ...
www.bulk-online.com/Cat/88.htm - 28k

State of Louisiana Department of Civil Service H4 SC 6/3/86 102630 ... - [ Traduzir esta página ]State of Louisiana Department of Civil Service H4 SC 6/3/86 102630 BULK TERMINAL WORKER 2 ... LOCATION OF WORK: Port bulk terminal facilities. ...
www.dscs.state.la.us/ClassPay/Jobspecs/102630.htm

Canton Railroad - Boston Street Bulk Terminal - [ Traduzir esta página ]BOSTON STREET BULK TERMINAL The advantages of rail economics, safety, and truck speed and reliability can be found at our Boston Street Bulk Terminal (BSBT). ...
www.cantonrr.com/bsbt.htm - 9k - 19 Ago 2004

Canal opens chemical terminal in Joliet IL - [ Traduzir esta página ]
... Canal opens chemical terminal in Joliet IL May 1, 2004 12:00 PM CANAL Terminal has opened one of the newest and most modern independent ...
bulktransporter.com/mag/ transportation_canal_opens_chemical/ - 43k

[PDF] JURONG ISLAND - EXXON CHEMICAL TERMINAL (OBR) JETTY DEPTH A/S (m) ...
Formato de arquivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Ver em HTML
Page 1. JURONG ISLAND - EXXON CHEMICAL TERMINAL (OBR) JETTY DEPTH
A/S (m) APPROACH DEPTH (m) MAX LOA (m) MAX DISPL. (tons) REMARKS ...
www.mpa.gov.sg/homepage/services/ pilotguide/jurong_island_exxon_chemical.pdf




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Note added at 3 hrs 13 mins (2004-08-20 14:55:14 GMT)
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One other thing to differentiate these two:
bulkers dock (usually) alongside a pier and tankers alongside a jetty equipped with hoses and pipelines that go directly to silos or buyer premises.

Joao Vieira
Portugal
Local time: 05:46
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 7
Grading comment
Very hard to choose between your kind answer and Margarita's, but I'm awarding you the points for your perspicacity - it is indeed Aveiro! Being able to name the port concerned out of the blue is a sign of specialist knowledge in my books! I've used "SOLID bulk" since there is also ref. to an existing "liquid bulk" terminal at Aveiro.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Henrique Serra
2 mins
  -> Obrigado Henrique

agree  Donna Sandin: I defer to Joao who has worked in shipping, but isn't it necessary to include the word "cargo" {bulk cargo terminal} or is that "understood" ?
1 hr
  -> It's understood Donna, even because graneis líquidos it's also bulk cargo but transported by tankers and not by bulkers. Bulk complies cereals, stones, clays, etc. One diference is cement whish can be transported by tankers-like & have specific disch pier

agree  Cristina Santos
9 hrs
  -> Obrigado Cristina
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