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Explanation: Grind sau crush
din cate stiu eu a mojara='grind' sau chiar 'crush' la substante uscate dupa cum apare in textul de tradus: dupa usacare...
In laborator pentru maruntirea unei cantitati mici de substanta se foloseste mojarul din portelan sau din sticla, iar pentru materiale mai dure cel din agat.
Aici e vorba despre pregatirea unei probe pt spectroscopia Raman: http://www.weizmann.ac.il/kimmel-arch/pdf/9_Alon .pdf
......followed by fine grinding and thorough mixing in an agate mortar and pestle...
During the drying step of the procedure a pellet is formed. This pellet was crushed to a fine powder using an agate mortar and pestle. The Raman spectra of all samples, whether cleaned or not, were measured when the sample was in the state of a fine powder.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mortar
mor·tar (môrtr)
n.
1. A vessel in which substances are crushed or ground with a pestle.
2. A machine in which materials are ground and blended or crushed.
http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=mojar
MOJÁR, mojare, s.n. Vas de formă semisferică cu pereţii groşi, de porţelan, sticlă, metal, material plastic, care serveşte, în farmacii şi în laboratoare, la mărunţirea fină a diferitelor substanţe prin frecarea lor cu ajutorul unui pistil.
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alte variante:
grind to powder, rub (down), pulverize
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grind este folosit mai des in chimie, iar triturate in farmaceutica
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am vazut ca majoritatea referintelelor in care apare 'triturate' se adauga si substanta in faza lichida la mojarare, deci nu sunt chiar sinonime. Grind se refera la mojararea subst. uscate. Am gasit aici si o definite in care apare: http://www.maden.hacettepe.edu.tr/dmmrt/index.html
triturate
a. A powder produced from a solid by grinding, usually with the addition
of some liquid. Gaynor
b. To grind to a powder, usually with the addition of some liquid.
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MOJARAT ar fi GROUND (UP)
Pentru 'triturare' in lb romana am dat referinte la discutii. Cred ca daca era vorba de triturare ar fi spus asa in limba romana. DEX-ul nu da explicatii suplimentare care sa diferentieze cei doi termeni http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=tritura
Aici din nou apare substanta solida si solvent pt triturate http://www.orglist.net/archive/1998/0192.html
Trituration...
it usually involves intimately mixing or slurrying of a contaminated SOLID product with a SOLVENT that..
Vad ca in textul de tradus este vorba de o substanta in faza solida care este pregatita pt analize spectrale, dar contextul este succint si nu spune ce fel de analize spectrale (pt unele analize proba este solida, pt altele nu). In plus apare mojarare si nu triturare in textul din romana.
Mojarare si triturarea nu sunt acelasi lucru, am vazut ca, in general, triturarea nu este o simpla mojarare mecanica a unei substante solide ci apare si o substanta lichida sau substanta de triturat este o pasta.
Aici apar una dupa alta:gentle GRINDING, add HPO3-HOAc SOLUTION AND TITRURATE until sample is in suspension http://www.ioc.uni-karlsruhe.de/Professoren/Podlech/lehre/so... http://www.medicina-familiei.ro/farmacia-apicola/208-tritura...
Dupa triturare (mixare) produsul devine omogen, laptos, onctuos http://www.cermed.netfirms.com/articole.htm
produsele care nu sunt diluate in alcool, cum sunt metalele, sunt mai intai triturate cu lactoza, o parte pentru 99 de parti, apoi de la a treia triturare lactoza este diluata si ea in alcool.
Poate apare un chimist care sa separe apele. Chimia isi are fineturile ei,
dar triturarea inseamna maruntire, sfaramare, omogeniizare pt solide, parti vegetale, fragmente tisulare.
Probabil ca Alina a ales deja termenul care ii trebuie in traducere.
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