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При перегонке воздушного судна с завода-изготовителя

English translation: during delivery of an aircraft from the production plant


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Russian term or phrase:При перегонке воздушного судна с завода-изготовителя
English translation:during delivery of an aircraft from the production plant
Entered by: GaryG
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11:24 Nov 27, 2003
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Aerospace / Aviation / Space / Aviation
Russian term or phrase: При перегонке воздушного судна с завода-изготовителя
Без свидетельства о регистрации гражданского воздушного судна полеты разрешаются только в следующих случаях:
1. При перегонке воздушного судна с завода-изготовителя до занесения его в Государственный реестр.
2. При перегонке воздушного судна, ранее не внесенного в Государственный реестр, с авиаремонтного завода... - Употребляется ли в данном контексте "to ferry", "ferrying", предлагаемое словарями?
Alexander Kolegov
during delivery of an aircraft from the production plant
Explanation:
That's really what перегон is here

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Note added at 2003-11-27 11:36:32 (GMT)
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or just \"...manufacturer\", which is appropriate for a civilian aircraft
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GaryG
Local time: 07:51
Grading comment
Я согласен с "delivery". Достаточно нейтрально для данного документа.
Спасибо!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1during delivery of an aircraft from the production plant
GaryG
4ferry flightbeserg
4ferry flight of the aircraft from the manufacturing plant
Alexander Onishko
4during transfer from the factory...xxxIain Neilson
4 -1flyaway
Valeri Serikov


  

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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
during transfer from the factory...


Explanation:
ferrying implies repeated movement over a given route.

xxxIain Neilson
Local time: 12:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Alexander Onishko: transfer - это скорее передача от одного владельца другому - см. http://www.eurocontrol.int/dgs/activities/crco/op_info/acft_...
28 mins
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
during delivery of an aircraft from the production plant


Explanation:
That's really what перегон is here

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Note added at 2003-11-27 11:36:32 (GMT)
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or just \"...manufacturer\", which is appropriate for a civilian aircraft

GaryG
Local time: 07:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 116
Grading comment
Я согласен с "delivery". Достаточно нейтрально для данного документа.
Спасибо!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  beserg
3 mins

disagree  Alexander Onishko: delivery - ЭТО СКОРЕЕ ПОСТАВКА, А ПОСКАНКА И ПЕРЕГОНКА ЭТО НЕ ОДНО И ТО ЖЕ, ПОСТАВКА ВКЛЮЧАЕТ ОФОРМЛЕНИЕ ДОКУМЕНТОВ УПЛАТУ СБОРОВ И Т.Д. СМ. ССЫЛКИ - http://www.google.com.ua/search?q="delivery of an aircraft "...
24 mins

agree  Alexander Shchekotin
1 hr
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
ferry flight of the aircraft from the manufacturing plant


Explanation:
при - НЕ НУЖНО !!!

у вас получится :

... in the following cases:

1. Ferry flight of the aircraft from the manufacturing plant

2. ...

LINGVO:

перегоночный полет ferry flight, ferry operation

воздушное судно проф. aircraft

manufacturing plant 1) предприятие обрабатывающей промышленности 2) завод-изготовитель

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... It also advised that “the ferry flight of the aircraft requires an FAA certificate
of airworthiness” and that “The FAA imposes strict technical ...

www.courts.qld.gov.au/qjudgment/ QSC%202003/QSC03-221.pdf
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Alexander Onishko
Local time: 14:51
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Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in category: 40
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
flyaway


Explanation:
Нашел интересный вариант:) В принципе, ferrying тоже встречается.

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Note added at 2003-11-27 11:39:39 (GMT)
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А вот про ценник на \"перегонку\" F26

http://www.stavatti.com/f26/f26_pricing.html


    Reference: http://av-info.faa.gov/dst/AC21-2/macedonia.pdf
Valeri Serikov
Local time: 15:51
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Alexander Onishko: инт. вариант но - концы с концами не сходятся на - http://www.stavatti.com/f26/f26_pricing.html - написано - The Per Unit Flyaway Cost (Flyaway Cost) of the F-26A ... is approximately $36,200,000.00 - 36 млн. ЭТО СЛИШКОМ ДОРОГО ЗА ПЕРЕГОНКУ :)
18 mins
  -> Здесь flyaway в смысле "сел и улетел", согласен, но см. PDF
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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
При перегонке воздушного судна с завода-изготовителя
ferry flight


Explanation:
Да, в авиакомпаниях так и переводят.

... In the investigation of a Boeing 707-321 aircraft accident which was operated as
a ferry flight, the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) identified ...
www.faa.gov/avr/afs/fsat/fsat9503.txt - 12k

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Note added at 18 mins (2003-11-27 11:43:10 GMT)
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GaryG прав, ferrying - это обычно перегон с места на место, напр. при передаче ВС в лизинг или на плановый ремонт. Delivery здесь в точку.

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Note added at 1 hr 2 mins (2003-11-27 12:26:50 GMT)
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aircraft delivery ferry flight - все скопом

UTILITY-AIRCRAFT ferry flight and aircraft delivery information
UTILITY- AIRCRAFT HOMEPAGE. DELIVERY ferry flight service. ÜBERFÜHRUNG
von Flugzeugen. CONVOYAGE d\'avions. FERRY. Ferry-Flight. Across the pond. ...
www.utility-aircraft.com/ferry_flight/

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Note added at 1 hr 4 mins (2003-11-27 12:28:34 GMT)
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aircraft delivery ferry flight aerial photos Canada Greenland and Iceland taken from a Cessna C182Q - с того же сайта



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International Aircraft Delivery, International Aircraft Delivery ...
... of ferry tanks. ... is the Country the airplane will be registered in DURING the delivery
flight. ...
webplus.locators.estates.co.uk/flights.htm

beserg
Local time: 15:51
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Alexander Onishko: сорри, а чем вас не устраивает передача в лизинг ?
25 mins
  -> Вполне устраивает, просто в этом контексте деливери как-то уместнее, если с завода-исготовителя.
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