English translation: Scraper vs racloir, side scraper, or German Schaber
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Russian term or phrase:
он разделил скребки от скребел
English translation:
Scraper vs racloir, side scraper, or German Schaber
Russian to English translations [PRO] Social Sciences - Archaeology / Paleolithic
Russian term or phrase:он разделил скребки от скребел
This part of the text is discussing the formulating of archaeological terms into the Russian language. The full paragraph from which this is taken is as follows:
Основной вклад в формирование современной русской терминологии внесли Ф. К. Волков (переводя монографию Нидерле, он разделил скребки от скребел; до того термин "скребки", иногда подразделяемые на "широкие" и "узкие", охватывал обе эти категории) и П. П. Ефименко, предложивший термин "ручное рубило" вместо "топора".
Both terms can be rendered as "scraper", but this paragraph talks of distinguishing between two different kinds. My technical dictionary gives for скребло: "scraping knife", and for скребок: scraper, scrubber".
So could I get away with "...to distinguish between a scraping knife and a scraper"?
Explanation: I kid you not, this is it! Look it up in Dictionary of Archaeology, Warwick Bray and David Trump, The Penguin Press, 1970, and its Russian translation Moskva "Progress" 1990. See, it pays to be an old man in translations!
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скребки от скребел - This is what I meant by "scarpers vs racloir,etc.
(see Google)
..the words is question, the answers are there - seek them, and this applies to all of you who will be filling my shoes, that is, if you so desire.....
Michael M., As far as I can tell, and who the helll am I to judge, you're a great translator, but do your research.. There's Internet info out there; there wasn't 56 years ago when I started this suff. You don't need to transliterate the words in questio
Larrisa, dear, what the h... is "strickle" is this or any other context?! It isn't your fault, but if any professional translator relies on Lingvo, Multitran, etc., they should pack it up and go home - a help, yes; a Bible, no! You're intelligent, use it
IMHO those terms are based on some original terms coined (or used) by Niderle and you should not translate them back but rather just describe them as "wide and narrow scrapers" or find the original monograph to see the source terms.
Scraper vs racloir, side scraper, or German Schaber
Explanation: I kid you not, this is it! Look it up in Dictionary of Archaeology, Warwick Bray and David Trump, The Penguin Press, 1970, and its Russian translation Moskva "Progress" 1990. See, it pays to be an old man in translations!
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 14 hrs (2006-06-08 00:09:29 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
скребки от скребел - This is what I meant by "scarpers vs racloir,etc.
(see Google)
Jack Slep Local time: 11:14 Works in field Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 28
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Many thanks Jack!
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Asker: Great stuff Jack! Many thanks.
So, to carry on with the story, later on in the text is this phrase:
Мы читаем здесь о "граттуарах" (фр. grattoir -- скребок)
I do have a FR<>EN dictionary of prehistoric archaeology, which gives "end scraper" for grattoir. And as Jack has put forward side scraper (which can apparently aslo be rendered by the French 'racloir') I can now consider this case closed! It's resolving little issues like this that make translation fun!
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