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место забоя и разделки

English translation: kill site


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Russian term or phrase:место забоя и разделки
English translation:kill site
Entered by: Alan Campbell
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16:45 Dec 12, 2006
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Science - Archaeology / Theory of Soviet archaeology
Russian term or phrase: место забоя и разделки
This is describing a Palaeolithic site in the Tomsk region and the research of N. F. Kashchenko in 1901.

Памятник представлял собой образец "места забоя и разделки", содержавший остатки одной туши мамонта в сопровождении углей и немногочисленных каменных орудий.
Alan Campbell
Local time: 16:14
Mammoth Site or Elephant-Kill Site (prob. Mammoth-kill site)
Explanation:
That's how they call the place where archeologists find butchering tools, coals, bones etc.

Probably the name of the location or of the person who found it goes first.
Check below (i put ** there):

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-7316(195907)25:1<2:TLM...

The Lehner Mammoth Site, Southeastern Arizona

Abstract
In 1955-56 the Arizona State Museum excavated an **elephant-kill site** on the Lehner ranch in the San Pedro valley, near Hereford, Arizona, and found 13 projectiles, mainly Clovis fluted points, **eight butchering tools, and charcoal from two fires among the remains of nine immature mammoths** and elements of horse, bison, and tapir. Bones and artifacts occurred on and in gravels of a former perennial stream exposed in the modern arroyo bank. Most or all of the animals were probably killed over a comparatively short period by hunters identified with the Llano complex by the Clovis points. The Lehner site and the nearby Naco site represent the southwesternmost extent of the presently known range of the Llano complex. The post-kill sequence of alluviation and erosion supports a geological age of 13,000 or more years for both bones and artifacts. Arizona, Michigan, and Copenhagen radiocarbon measurements of hearth charcoal indicate a date of 11,000 to 12,000 B.P. Since these dates are substantially older than the oldest radiocarbon assays for the Sulphur Spring stage of the Cochise culture, it is probable that the transition from big-game hunting to collecting is reflected in the change from Llano complex to Cochise culture, and that this shift in economic emphasis took place before the complete extinction of the late Pleistocene megafauna.



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The Tomsk Mammoth Site

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The Kashchenko Mammoth Site, Tomsk Region
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Vladimir Dubisskiy
Local time: 10:14
Grading comment
This seems to be a commonly used phrase and feels right.

Many thanks!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +4place for butchering
Zaur Bahramov
4Mammoth Site or Elephant-Kill Site (prob. Mammoth-kill site)
Vladimir Dubisskiy
4butching site
Valery Kaminski
4slaughter and dressing site
Roman Bardachev


  

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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
place for butchering


Explanation:
place for butchering

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или slaughtering and butchering

Zaur Bahramov
Italy
Local time: 17:14
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in AzerbaijaniAzerbaijani

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sergei Tumanov
24 mins
  -> Спасибо, Сергей!

agree  Dorene Cornwell: check and English monolingual dictionary: even through it's two words in Russian, I think just butchering covers it in English.
7 hrs
  -> Many thanks!

agree  Kevin Kelly: With Dorene, especially since the context is killing and butchering mammoths. The killing would by necessity take place wherever the hunters were able to bring down the animal. I think "butchering site" would cover it.
7 hrs
  -> Many thanks!

agree  Marta Argat: Kevin, the place was not for killing mammoths, sure, but those prehistoric people could slaughter any smaller already wounded, captured game on this site the other time.
9 hrs
  -> Many thanks!
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
butching site


Explanation:
:((

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These and the fact that the bone weren't in their anatomical position, leads to the interpretation that Gröbern was a killing and butching site. ...


    Reference: http://nespos-live01.pxpgroup.com/display/openspace/Site+Lis...
Valery Kaminski
Local time: 18:14
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 4
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
slaughter and dressing site


Explanation:
imho, lots of hits in ggl, too

Roman Bardachev
Canada
Local time: 09:14
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
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14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Mammoth Site or Elephant-Kill Site (prob. Mammoth-kill site)


Explanation:
That's how they call the place where archeologists find butchering tools, coals, bones etc.

Probably the name of the location or of the person who found it goes first.
Check below (i put ** there):

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-7316(195907)25:1<2:TLM...

The Lehner Mammoth Site, Southeastern Arizona

Abstract
In 1955-56 the Arizona State Museum excavated an **elephant-kill site** on the Lehner ranch in the San Pedro valley, near Hereford, Arizona, and found 13 projectiles, mainly Clovis fluted points, **eight butchering tools, and charcoal from two fires among the remains of nine immature mammoths** and elements of horse, bison, and tapir. Bones and artifacts occurred on and in gravels of a former perennial stream exposed in the modern arroyo bank. Most or all of the animals were probably killed over a comparatively short period by hunters identified with the Llano complex by the Clovis points. The Lehner site and the nearby Naco site represent the southwesternmost extent of the presently known range of the Llano complex. The post-kill sequence of alluviation and erosion supports a geological age of 13,000 or more years for both bones and artifacts. Arizona, Michigan, and Copenhagen radiocarbon measurements of hearth charcoal indicate a date of 11,000 to 12,000 B.P. Since these dates are substantially older than the oldest radiocarbon assays for the Sulphur Spring stage of the Cochise culture, it is probable that the transition from big-game hunting to collecting is reflected in the change from Llano complex to Cochise culture, and that this shift in economic emphasis took place before the complete extinction of the late Pleistocene megafauna.



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Note added at 14 hrs (2006-12-13 07:00:15 GMT)
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Like

The Tomsk Mammoth Site

or

The Kashchenko Mammoth Site, Tomsk Region

Vladimir Dubisskiy
Local time: 10:14
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
This seems to be a commonly used phrase and feels right.

Many thanks!
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