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English translation: Special English School

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11:46 Feb 21, 2003

Russian to English translations [PRO]
Education / Pedagogy / education

Russian term or phrase: s angliiskim ukolonom

kak skazat po angliiski tochnee

obsheobrazovatelnya shkola s angliiskim uklonom ( vsravnenii s Britanskoi systemoi)

tatyanawy

English translation:Special English School

Explanation:
I would probably say it like that.

I had a lot of friends in Moscow who went to Special Maths Schools, I guess the same applies to English.

Funnily enough, during the Blair government years, there has been an initiative to develop similar schools here, specialising in one or another discipline.

Selected response from:

Dan Brennan
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:27

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Graded automatically based on peer agreement. KudoZ.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

5 +4

Specialized English School

Sergey Gorelik

4 +5

Special English School

Dan Brennan

3 +3

Specializing in English Language

alla dunbar

4 +1

The secondary school for advanced learners of English.

xxxOleg Pashuk

English Conversion School

Russian Express

4 +1

secondary/high school with/of extended English studies

xxxVera Fluhr

Comprehensive School with extensive English language studies/training

alla dunbar

Private Academy with a Concentration in the English Language

Joseph Bayerl

English second language

Myron Netchypor

(special) school with profound study of English

Nikita Kobrin

Language School

Guy

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

5 mins confidence:

(special) school with profound study of English

Explanation:
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Для Сергея Горелика:

А, я понял, что вы имеете в виду: нужно не \"special\", а \"specialized\". Согласен.

Nikita Kobrin
Lithuania
Local time: 11:27
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Russian
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

disagree

Sergey Gorelik: Это должно буквально означать школлу для умственно отсталых, но с упором на английский

3 mins

-> Ничего не пониманию. Почему "это должно буквально означать школлу для умственно отсталых"? И где вы видели, чтобы "умственно отсталые" усиленно изучали английский?

neutral

Dan Brennan: not profound.... doesn't work at all nikita

1 hr

-> It's a great pity as this wording has been staying in my CV for 10 years already! Three English native speakers (1 from the UK and 2 from the US) proofread it and told me nothing about it. But what would be the best option then?

agree

Dash: Я училась в подобной школе, мы изучали английский еще с подготовительного класса, и наша школа называлась special school.

1 hr

neutral

Joseph Bayerl: I am with Dan. Profound sounds out of place. Vera's 'extended' or 'extensive' would not be bad. 'intensive' may be even better.

6 hrs

8 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

Specializing in English Language

Explanation:
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I know what type of school you mean and I should admit there is no such schools that are comprehensive as well as specializing in a language in Britain. So I don\'t think you will find a British equivalent to the Russian school type. In British comprehensive schools, year-11 children (about 14 years olds) are choosing their specialization for GCSE and A-levels. Then a child may choose to study a foreign language more than other subjects.

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By the way, British children start Secondary school in Britain when they are about 11 years old, but they don\'t study any particular subject intensively until they are about 14 years old. (I know that because my daughter is 14. ) Russian ОБЩЕОБРАЗОВАТЕЛЬНАЯ ШКОЛА с английским уклоном is for children younger than 11 (as far as I know).
That is if you are looking for a British equivalent of course. I mean there is no equivalent there, unfortunately/ or may be fortunately.

alla dunbar
Local time: 09:27
Native speaker of:

Russian

8 mins confidence:

English second language

Explanation:
School with English second language

Myron Netchypor
Ukraine
Local time: 11:27
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Ukrainian,

Russian

10 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

Specialized English School

Explanation:
Special - специальная в смысле для детей с отклонениями

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Никита! Только не ищите ссылки в русских поисковиках. В англоговорящих странах термин special по отношению к школе всегда означает \"специально образование\" - да, это необязательно умственные отклонения, есть школы для слепых, бывают школы для малолетних преступников и т.д. и т.п.
Попробуйте задать поиск в АльтаВисте или др. - увидите.

Вот для сравнения:
\"Welcome to the Speciality Education Guide. Find specialized schools, programs, and educational opportunities in a variety of fields....Try a search or select from the categories below..\"

(http://www.school-directories.com/)

или

\"Residential treatment center and special school that provides help for troubled boys. Help with behavioral issues, depression and substance abuse. Located near Zion National Park, Utah. \"
(http://liahonaacademy.com/?src=overture)

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Соответственно, первый пример - спецшколы, а второй - школы со \"специальным образованием\"

Sergey Gorelik
Local time: 13:27
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Russian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

Nikita Kobrin: Почему "для детей с отклонениями"? Это обычная "английская спецшкола" (с углубленным изучением англ. яз). У нас так их называют. Я сам в такой работал, и потом долго мучился, как написать сие по-английски в СV. Было бы интересно найти подходящее название.

13 mins

-> Я дал пару ссылок выше, довольно интересных

agree

Dan Brennan: that's okay too

1 hr

agree

protolmach: да, их называли special, тоже в такой работала. Очень хорошо помню, что приходилось долно объяснять, что это значит. Видимо, specialized подходит лучше. Или, нужен длинный вариант с описательным переводом. ...school with a special program in English ...

2 hrs

agree

Yelena McCafferty

4 hrs

agree

Mark Vaintroub

6 hrs

neutral

Joseph Bayerl: I can't disagree with it, but I think that going with 'academy' will imply both 'special' and 'school' without any of the ambiguity. Specifically it avoids the association that led you to think of the euphemistic "special needs children."

6 hrs

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

Special English School

Dan Brennan
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:27
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 15

Grading comment

Graded automatically based on peer agreement. KudoZ.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Nikita Kobrin: Dan, what's better: "special" or "specialized"?

18 mins

-> my personal preference is 'special', but others may disagree....

agree

Dash

39 mins

agree

xxxxeni: that's what we called my school. I'm glad that it sounds right for a native speaker!

3 hrs

neutral

Sergey Gorelik: It may just be another British/American issue, I guess

6 hrs

agree

xxxIreneN: My Special English School #1 in Leningrad was called just that in all the official correspondence with various USSR-Great Britain societies and associations where the school was accepted as a member or an associate. It's a well-known term.

7 hrs

agree

Joseph Bayerl: Special works if the is what you mean, BUT I think we are giving too much weight to the cognate, and not considering more broadly what non-public schools (often with special focus) have been called in the English world. Special remains ambiguous. IMHO.

8 hrs

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

secondary/high school with/of extended English studies

Explanation:
Или:
secondary/high school with extended program of English

Общеобразовательная средняя школа, кажется, еще называется high school, но этот вопрос уже неоднократно обсуждался

Примеры:

Extended Studies. Information Technology. English Language Studies. ...
http://myuminfo.umanitoba.ca/index.asp?sec=513&eve=2

School of Extended Graduate Studies... http://segs.fit.edu/admissions/

About Extended Studies at Boise State
... Extended Studies Programs Overview. ...
Do you need to improve your English language skills? ...
http://www.boisestate.edu/extendedstudies/esaboutus.html

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EXTENDED STUDIES
... Extended Studies offers a number of opportunities for high school students, including courses for both high school and university credit. ...
http://extended.pdx.edu/homepages/students/high_school.shtml

SDSU\'s College of Extended Studies offers a wide range of certificate programs, credit, noncredit, and distance learning courses for individuals seeking career ...
http://www.ces.sdsu.edu/

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Школа \"с уклоном\" - это разговорное выражение, ана самом деле официально они называются \"школы с углубленным изучением\". Но по-английски не говорят \"углубленное\", говорят \"extended\".
Поэтому я и предложила такой вариант.

Русские примеры:

Средняя школа 34 с углубленным изучением английского языка
Школа является образовательным учреждением с углубленным изучением английского языка с 1981 года
http://gis.rnd.runnet.ru/education/SOSh/SC34_R.htm

Лицей \"Столичный\" - частная средняя школа Москвы - Углубленное изучение английского языка. Информатика. Подготовка в вуз. Три филиала с различными условиями обучения. Пансион и полупансион. Элитное
http://www.bb-club.ru/20020810001259/

МОУ Средняя школа 316 с углубленным изучением английского языка
http://fio.ifmo.ru/archive/31102000/c1u8/

Средняя общеобразовательная школа °1274 им В.В. Маяковского, с углубленным изучением английского языка.
Школа 1274 Москва
http://schools.keldysh.ru/1274

Reference: http://myuminfo.umanitoba.ca/index.asp?sec=513&eve=2
Reference: http://www.boisestate.edu/extendedstudies/esaboutus.html

xxxVera Fluhr
Local time: 10:27
Native speaker of:

Russian,

French
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

alla dunbar: Vera, I don’t think it is correct to translate the name for Russia спец.школа с англ. уклоном as Secondary or High School. As far as I know children of primary years (6-10 y.o.) also do extended English studies (unlike in ordinary Russian schools).

7 mins

-> Алла, прочитайте, пожалуйста, вопрос. Там написано: ОБЩЕОБРАЗОВАТЕЛЬНАЯ. В России начальные классы и средние классы учатся в едином учреждении - СРЕДНЕЙ ОБЩЕОБРАЗОВАТЕЛЬНОЙ ШКОЛЕ

agree

Joseph Bayerl: Could work with 'extensive' vs. 'extended' -- IMHO

9 hrs

-> Thank you, Joe

1 hr confidence:

Private Academy with a Concentration in the English Language

Explanation:
My colleagues across the Atlantic are welcome to comment on how well this fits common usage in British education circles.

However, I do not think that it is necesssary to consider this "special education" in the sense of a school for the children with mental delays. Consider the MVD Academy in Chita (http://www.chita.ru/~milischool/) I also see examples of special schools for mathematics and other topics.

Therefore, I would go with "Academy" for a school specializing in the liberal arts and sciences and "Conservatory" for one specializing in the performing or visual arts.

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Or \"English Academy\" for a pithy, speaker-friendly shorthand. For example, the Kiwi English School.

http://www.kiwienglish.co.nz/

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Sorry, that is Kiwi English Academy

Joseph Bayerl
United States
Local time: 04:27
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

1 hr confidence:

English Conversion School

Explanation:
N/A

Russian Express
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Russian

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

The secondary school for advanced learners of English.

Explanation:
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www.kazan.ru/list/list.php3?cid=26&sort=n
Our school was founded in 1959, the first students graduated from it in 1966. You'll find us in the Republic of Tatarstan, 420012 Kasan, 6 Mushtari st., The secondary school for advanced learners of English.

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http://engschool18.narod.ru/e_about.html
http://engschool18.narod.ru/about.html

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Something is wrong with encoding ! Disregard all that : It was in Russian, anyway. Englesh part, and the links are OK.

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EnglIsh - sorry:(

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Also:
Secondary/High school with emphasis on on English Language

xxxOleg Pashuk
PRO pts in category: 2

3 hrs confidence:

Comprehensive School with extensive English language studies/training

Explanation:

... It is designed for students in professional programs which do not allow extensive language studies to seek their fluency goals. ...
www.engr.uiuc.edu/international/Summer_Brochures/Argentina....

Online Application for Graduate Studies - ... Applicants whose programs will include area studies and extensive language training may be eligible for a National Resources (Title VI) Fellowship. ...
https://grad-application.uchicago.edu/intro/humanities/instr...

alla dunbar
Local time: 09:27
Native speaker of:

Russian

6 hrs confidence:

Language School

Explanation:
В Англии есть много Language Schools, возможно это эквивалент русской языковой спецшколы.

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It\'s a web-site advert:

Teacher of French and Spanish required for
Monkseaton Community High School Language College
Closing date: 7 March 2003

13 - 18 Mixed Comprehensive
NOR: 940 (240 in Sixth Form)

We are looking to appoint a committed teacher of French and Spanish to work with colleagues in a vibrant and dynamic department. The post provides an excellent opportunity and would be suitable for an NQT.

The school is nationally recognised for innovation particularly in relation to Modern Foreign Languages. The Modern Foreign Languages department enjoys excellent facilities and resources, with a dedicated Technician.

Guy
Local time: 09:27
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Russian,

Ukrainian

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