Russian to English translations [PRO] General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters | | Russian term or phrase: см. ниже | | Уважаемые коллеги (я что-то запамятствовал), подскажите, пожалуйста, вместе со словом child нормально употреблять "he" "his" ведь человеческое существо же (не "it"), не является это неким оскорблением прекрасной половины? |
| | | English translation:he/his | Explanation: I myself wouldn't use "it." Unless you know the gender of the child, I'd simply use "he, his," depending on the need. You can also use "the child," but tht would be a bit stilted after a bit.
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Stass, here is a good link showing why I wouldn\'t use he/she, or some form thereof: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/they.html
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He, She, or They?
People are increasingly using the plural pronoun they to refer to one person if they do not know whether that person is male or female. Until quite recently, he was generally used to refer to a peson of either sex, as in `Every child needs to know that he is loved\', but nowadays many people feel that such a use is sexist. He or she is possible, but is rather awkward. They is generally accepted in sentences using words such as someone or anyone, e.g. \'Anyone can join if they are a resident\'. More people object to they being used after a single noun, as in \'Ask a friend if they can help\'.
Interestingly, use of they in this way is not a modern invention: it was first recorded in the 16th century.
The above is from: http://www.askoxford.com/betterwriting/classicerrors/grammar...
I feel in formal writing, it\'s still ok to use \"he.\" |
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| Grading comment Thank you, Kurt. You were the first with "they" option, which was new for me. 4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer |
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Explanation: грамматики 15-летней давности требуют "he" для ребенка, человека. работника и т.п. Лучше всего ИМХО писать he or she, я полностью согласен с коллегой. Последняя тенденция - she, источник - самоучитель по подготовке к сдаче экзамена FCE, там motorist = she, мы долго не могли врубиться, а потом проверили всю книжку - почти везде в таких случаях стоит she. Слава феминисткам!
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9 mins confidence:  peer agreement (net): +1 | см. ниже he/his
Explanation: I myself wouldn't use "it." Unless you know the gender of the child, I'd simply use "he, his," depending on the need. You can also use "the child," but tht would be a bit stilted after a bit.
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Stass, here is a good link showing why I wouldn\'t use he/she, or some form thereof: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/they.html
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He, She, or They?
People are increasingly using the plural pronoun they to refer to one person if they do not know whether that person is male or female. Until quite recently, he was generally used to refer to a peson of either sex, as in `Every child needs to know that he is loved\', but nowadays many people feel that such a use is sexist. He or she is possible, but is rather awkward. They is generally accepted in sentences using words such as someone or anyone, e.g. \'Anyone can join if they are a resident\'. More people object to they being used after a single noun, as in \'Ask a friend if they can help\'.
Interestingly, use of they in this way is not a modern invention: it was first recorded in the 16th century.
The above is from: http://www.askoxford.com/betterwriting/classicerrors/grammar...
I feel in formal writing, it\'s still ok to use \"he.\"
| Kurt Porter Local time: 11:35 Specializes in field Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 42
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| | Grading comment | Thank you, Kurt. You were the first with "they" option, which was new for me. |
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1 hr confidence:   самый политкорректный вариант - they
Explanation: Современные тенденции требуют от пишущего бдительности и там, где это возможно, вообще избегать указания на пол, чтобы чего не вышло. На всякий случай. Поэтому очень дальновидно будет написать they, не обидятся ни мальчики, ни девочки. Причем именно так: child (ед.ч.) - they/them/their (мн.ч.). Это ничего, что слегка безграмотно, однако, прикопаться будет ни к чему.
Вот как здесь, например, пишут люди, свободные от сексизма:
Does **your child** become uneasy, or do you notice **them** quickly hitting keys or the mouse when you approach **them** while **they're** on the computer?
scsc.essortment.com/childrenhacking_nbj.htm
If **your child** has a mobile, it might be an idea to ask **them** to call you when **they’re** ready to come home.
www.bbc.co.uk/schools/parents/ article_secondary_22042002.shtml
**Your child** becomes very secretive around **their** use of the internet, as if **they** are hiding something from you, and aggressive when you come over to **them** to look at the computer.
www.safetyed.org/help/childexploit.html
Смайлов не ставлю, надеюсь, что и без них буду понята правильно.
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