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обида за державу

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17:13 Dec 19, 2011

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Russian term or phrase: обида за державу

"Самый влиятельный во всех отношениях человек в крае" (так называют xxxx СМИ) утверждает, что на открытый конфликт с губернатором его толкнула "обида за державу". Но возможно и другое объяснение ...

I've seen a similar phrase with обидно rather than the noun обида. I suspect the meaning is similar, but I'd like to make sure.

Dylan Edwards KudoZ activity Questions: 820 (14 open) (18 without valid answers) (29 closed without grading) Answers: 890
Local time: 13:02

English translation:see explanation

Explanation:
(in this context)...hurt his national pride...

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Sam Pinson
Local time: 05:02

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Summary of answers provided

3 +4

see explanation

Sam Pinson

5 +1

the insult for what's done to Great State

Olga Dyussengaliyeva

4 +1

felt compelled to defend/stand up for the state

Mark Berelekhis

hurt feelings for the State

Andrey Belousov

feeling aggrieved for the homeland

Eugene N

resentment over power

Daniel Frisano Paulon

Discussion entries: 3

Answers

4 mins confidence:

resentment over power

Explanation:
Not sure if I got the meaning right, but this could be an option.

Daniel Frisano Paulon
Italy
Local time: 14:02
Native speaker of:

Italian,

Friulian

14 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

see explanation

Explanation:
(in this context)...hurt his national pride...

Sam Pinson
Local time: 05:02
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

Grading comment

Selected automatically based on peer agreement.

27 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

the insult for what's done to Great State

Explanation:
"за державу обидно" is a quote from the movie The White Sun of the Desert - a GREAT Russian (Soviet) movie. The quote became very popular and widely used. (by the google search link you can appreciate how commonly used it ishttp://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=за держа... The quote that you are translating is derived from this famous one with an obvious "hint" to it's origin, therefore with quotation marks. Therefore I suggest to translate it as above and make a translators' comment or a footnote with reference to the actual quote and the source of it. Hope it helps.

Example sentence(s):

Vereschagin: You do know me, Abdulla: I don\'t accept graft - it is what is done to the Great State that insults me.

Reference: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066565/quotes

Olga Dyussengaliyeva
Local time: 17:02
Native speaker of:

Russian

30 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

felt compelled to defend/stand up for the state

Explanation:
The meaning is the same, but you need to render it differently to sound native.

Mark Berelekhis
United States
Local time: 08:02
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Russian,

English
PRO pts in category: 84

40 mins confidence:

hurt feelings for the State

Explanation:
....

Andrey Belousov
United States
Local time: 08:02
Native speaker of:

Russian
PRO pts in category: 27

44 mins confidence:

feeling aggrieved for the homeland

Explanation:
Just another version to be added to the previous ones.

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My feeling is that "hurt his national pride" is not the same as the Russian "за державу обидно."

Eugene N
Local time: 16:02
Native speaker of:

Russian

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