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19:34 Jun 19, 2017
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)
Russian term or phrase: сумма ущерба
пени в размере хх процентов от суммы ущерба за каждый день задержки (компенсации ущерба)
Пункт в договоре о сотрудничестве

damages - наверно тут не подходит, так как damages назначает суд, а о суде речь не идет
the amount of damage - как то двусмысленно (можно понять и как "размер ущерба)
the amount involved?
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Summary of answers provided
5amount of loss
Angelina Galanska
4 +1damages sustained
JW Narins
3 +2of the loss incurredEllen Kraus


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42 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
of the loss incurred


Explanation:
the loss one incurrs owing to delays and suchlike

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Note added at 54 Min. (2017-06-19 20:28:54 GMT)
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" liable for losses or damages incurred due to delays,

Ellen Kraus
Austria
Local time: 07:08
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 8

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agree  Frank MacroJanus
1 hr

agree  Ravindra Godbole
3 hrs
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
damages sustained


Explanation:
Damages - не только то, что назначает суд, это ущерб, а суд является тем, кто определяет размер (в теории настоящего) ущерба. Можно сказать, чтобы отличить судебного определения этой суммы от внешней реалии "percentage of the amount of damages [actually] sustained..."

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Note added at 39 mins (2017-06-19 20:13:19 GMT)
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You're misreading it. "Damages attempt to measure in financial terms the extent of harm a plaintiff has suffered because of a defendant's actions." Pretty straightforward. It's just the first reference I opened. "Damages ACTUALLY sustained" is inarguable in its meaning.

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-06-19 20:53:29 GMT)
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You're still looking for legal language; I don't think you WANT the source you're asking for. You want legal/court language specifying actual damages. Anything else would be inappropriate fo your purposes.

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-06-19 21:12:56 GMT)
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Look at this clause. It's clearly talking about damages as actual loss resulting from real-world situations.
https://www.lawinsider.com/clause/limitation-of-liability/di...

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-06-19 21:13:06 GMT)
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No court mentioned.

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-06-19 21:13:55 GMT)
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And look here at the exact phrase I proposed - "damages actually sustained":
https://books.google.com/books?id=NF3dBsgUQIUC&pg=PA581&lpg=...

JW Narins
United States
Local time: 01:08
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Спасибо за ответ. Но согласиться с Вами не могу. ВСЕ определения damages в словарях напрямую упоминают суд. Если сможете дать ссылку на определение этого понятия в вашей интерпретации, буду очень благодарна. Мне такое найти не удалось. Но, может, я плохо искала.

Asker: Yes, very straightforward indeed. Particularly taking into account the fact that your definition mentions a plaintiff and a defendant :). Which actually proves my point: whenever damages are mentioned, the court is always involved. There is no legal action in my case.

Asker: But I will still be very grateful for a link to a definition of damages without any reference to court.

Asker: Consequential Damages Injury or harm that does not ensue directly and immediately from the act of a party, but only from some of the results of such act, and that is compensable by a monetary award after a judgment has been rendered in a lawsuit. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Consequential+Damages Вот это - определение юридического термина. То, что дали Вы - это просто его употребление в конкретном контексте, где сам суд может и не упоминается, но его наличие подразумевается в самом понятии consequential damages

Asker: Actual Damages Money awarded to compensate for actual losses (also called "compensatory damages"). The amount awarded is based on the proven harm, loss, or injury suffered by the plaintiff. This award does not include punitive damages, which may be awarded when the defendant's actions are especially reckless or malicious.

Asker: В этом определении слово award -также прямое указание на то, что actual damages назначает СУД

Asker: В любом случае любой вид damages является a REMEDY in tort law. And a remedy, in its turn, is a means of enforcing a right or compensating for loss, damage or injury, especially through a court or other judicial body

Asker: Я решила, что воспользуюсь словосочетанием "the damage amount". Оно вполне гуглится в нужном мне контексте в американсих и британских текстах.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Irina Shevchenko: Обычно в договорах предполагается возможность урегулирования и компенсации суммы ущерба без суда при взаимном согласии сторон...
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  -> Irina, thank you!
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3 days1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
amount of loss


Explanation:
https://www.irmi.com/articles/expert-commentary/just-what-do...

Angelina Galanska
United States
Local time: 22:08
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in BulgarianBulgarian, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you!

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