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English translation: arts and crafts


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Russian term or phrase:урок труда
English translation:arts and crafts
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13:59 Oct 3, 2011
    The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2011-10-06 16:54:08 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)


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Science - Other / School subject
Russian term or phrase: урок труда
Hi! I wonder how can I say "урок труда" in English? I mean school subject in which boys learn how to fix something and girls sew or cook. Is it "industrial arts" as offers me Lingvo Dict. or "Design and Technology" as I saw it in Wikipedia? And how can I call a teacher who teaches this subject?

Здравствуйте! Подскажите, пожалуйста, перевод "урок труда" (как школьный предмет) и "учитель труда" на английский. Лингво дает такой пример как "industrial arts", но действительно ли он употребителен? может быть он называется "Design and Technology"?
Katia_Yakimenko
arts and crafts
Explanation:
The closest English equivalent I can think of. http://www.google.com/search?q=arts and crafts subject&hl=en...
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Mark Berelekhis
United States
Local time: 23:48
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4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2Handicraft or Craft
Halyna Maksymiv
4 +2arts and crafts
Mark Berelekhis
4 +1home economics / craft and design
rikka
4 +1Technology/Home and Careers
Judith Hehir


Discussion entries: 10





  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Handicraft or Craft


Explanation:
http://www.multitran.ru/c/m.exe?l1=2&l2=1&s=

Halyna Maksymiv
Ukraine
Local time: 06:48
Native speaker of: Native in UkrainianUkrainian, Native in RussianRussian
Notes to answerer
Asker: пожалуй, попробую, Handicraft, спасибо


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kiwiland Bear: This would work too except it should be "crafts" - plural.
3 hrs
agree  cyhul
12 hrs
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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
arts and crafts


Explanation:
The closest English equivalent I can think of. http://www.google.com/search?q=arts and crafts subject&hl=en...

Mark Berelekhis
United States
Local time: 23:48
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
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Selected automatically based on peer agreement.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alex Marshall
47 mins
  -> Thank you.
agree  Kiwiland Bear: I don't think there is an exact equivalent but this is reasonably close. Should convey the idea anyway.
2 hrs
  -> Thank you.
neutral  rikka: позвольте не согласиться, по-моему, arts and crafts звучит как изящный, но бесполезный предмет; в то врмемя как на ур. труда нас девочек однажды заставили, обменяв с мальчишками, клепать из жести СОВОК!
3 hrs
  -> Have you actually been to or observed an arts and crafts class? Anyway, the point is providing an English equivalent, not trying to re-create some of the more atrocious Soviet practices, which wouldn't fly here anyway.
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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Technology/Home and Careers


Explanation:
http://www.kn.att.com/wired/fil/pages/listtechnolokr1.html

Judith Hehir
United States
Local time: 23:48
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 74

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Kiwiland Bear: Things might have changed since my times but, as I remember it, there was nothing about careers there. More like around the house handyman for boys and (ahem) housewife skills for girls.
3 hrs
  -> I think this is a regional phenomenon. "Home Ec" is quite dated for NYS. "Home and Careers" is about cooking, sewing and such. Both male and female students are required to take it, as is the case with Technology.
agree  The Misha: Home economics is about right for girls, but it sounds sooooo much like the fifties now. In the modern US context, I'd say Technology/Home and careers is the safest way to go. Maybe the British still say home economics?
4 hrs
  -> That's my thought, too, The Misha. Thank you.
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
home economics / craft and design


Explanation:
home economics for girls, craft and design (or industrial arts) for boys

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Note added at 50 mins (2011-10-03 14:49:49 GMT)
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some links listing "home economics" as a school subject:
www.education.ie/insreports/report2_65130E.htm
"...Although Home Economics is an optional subject on the school ..."

bctf.ca/thesa/pdf/inquiry_contextual.pdf
"Technology subjects such as home economics are particularly affected. Seven percent of advertised high school vacancies are for home economics teachers..."

sitemaker.umich.edu/356.swidler/._importance_for_the_future_.
"It is hard to find a single subject taught in schools today that incorporates as many topics of interest as home economics,..."

it may actually be both for boys and girls

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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-10-03 17:04:21 GMT)
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www.hmie.gov.uk/documents/publication/elhe-05.htm
In the majority of schools,all boys and girls follow a continuous course in home economics for two years.



rikka
Local time: 05:48
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 12
Notes to answerer
Asker: Спасибо! тоже приму как вариант

Asker: I decided to use home economics for girls but still think if it suits for boys


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  LanaUK: Very tru.It is called ''home economics'' in uk schools. design and technology is a separate subject.
1 hr
  -> thank you, Lana!
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