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16:31 Dec 8, 2004
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Psychology
Russian term or phrase: Язык так же древен, как и сознание ...
«Язык так же древен, как и сознание; язык есть практическое, существующее для других людей и лишь тем самым существующее также и для меня самого действительное сознание...» Карл Маркс
Не могу найти, а время не терпит. Может быть, у кого-нибудь есть под рукой, так сказать. Так как нет литературы,это просто стенограмма лекции, не знаю, где искать.
Спасибо!
protolmach
United States
English translation:-->
Explanation:
Language is as old as consciousness, language is practical consciousness that exists also for other men, and for that reason alone it really exists for me personally as well; language, like consciousness, only arises from the need, the necessity, of intercourse with other men. Where there exists a relationship, it exists for me: the animal does not enter into "relations" with anything, it does not enter into any relation at all. For the animal, its relation to others does not exist as a relation. Consciousness is, therefore, from the very beginning a social product, and remains so as long as men exist at all.
http://www.anthropoetics.ucla.edu/views/vw277.htm

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The first definitive statement of Marx’s anthropology is the section entitled \"History: Fundamental Conditions\" in part I A of The German Ideology (1845). Marx first defines four \"moments\" that come together synchronically in the human: 1. \"the production of material life itself\"; 2. \"production of new needs\" derived from this basic production; 3. \"the relation between man and woman, parents and children, the family\"; 4. the combination of \"a certain mode of production, or industrial stage . . . with a certain mode of co-operation, or social stage.\"

Ну, по ссылке там есть. Вроде бы точная цитата.

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HTTP://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch...
HTTP://www.umit.maine.edu/~steven.evans/tq-questions.htm
www.for-giving.com/title/title.html
HTTP://www.mills.edu/SOCA/DANRYAN/SOC116/lectures/Marx/Marx_The_Ge...
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Mikhail Kropotov
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Local time: 01:49
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Огромное спасибо, очень выручили.
Илона
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Язык так же древен, как и сознание ...
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Explanation:
Language is as old as consciousness, language is practical consciousness that exists also for other men, and for that reason alone it really exists for me personally as well; language, like consciousness, only arises from the need, the necessity, of intercourse with other men. Where there exists a relationship, it exists for me: the animal does not enter into "relations" with anything, it does not enter into any relation at all. For the animal, its relation to others does not exist as a relation. Consciousness is, therefore, from the very beginning a social product, and remains so as long as men exist at all.
http://www.anthropoetics.ucla.edu/views/vw277.htm

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Note added at 10 mins (2004-12-08 16:42:33 GMT)
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The first definitive statement of Marx’s anthropology is the section entitled \"History: Fundamental Conditions\" in part I A of The German Ideology (1845). Marx first defines four \"moments\" that come together synchronically in the human: 1. \"the production of material life itself\"; 2. \"production of new needs\" derived from this basic production; 3. \"the relation between man and woman, parents and children, the family\"; 4. the combination of \"a certain mode of production, or industrial stage . . . with a certain mode of co-operation, or social stage.\"

Ну, по ссылке там есть. Вроде бы точная цитата.

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Note added at 21 mins (2004-12-08 16:53:19 GMT)
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HTTP://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch...
HTTP://www.umit.maine.edu/~steven.evans/tq-questions.htm
www.for-giving.com/title/title.html
HTTP://www.mills.edu/SOCA/DANRYAN/SOC116/lectures/Marx/Marx_The_Ge...

Mikhail Kropotov
Russian Federation
Local time: 01:49
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 28
Grading comment
Огромное спасибо, очень выручили.
Илона
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