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ruedo (de un árbol)

English translation: (the area) around the base of the tree


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Spanish term or phrase:ruedo (de un árbol)
English translation:(the area) around the base of the tree
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15:38 Oct 26, 2011
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Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Agriculture / Olive farming
Spanish term or phrase: ruedo (de un árbol)
SPAIN. From a survey for olive farmers: I think this refers to the ring around the base of a tree, but can't find a specific term for it. I don't have much more context than this:

"¿Cuál es su sistema de cultivo habitual?
-Laboreo total
-Laboreo de calle y mantenimiento de la línea de árboles mediante herbicidas
-Laboreo total excepto el ruedo. El ruedo se mantiene limpio mediante herbicida
-No laboreo
-Otro (especificar)"
neilmac
Spain
Local time: 19:59
(the area) around the base of the tree
Explanation:
Basically another version of Jenni's answer.

"Avoid cultivation around the base of the tree (e.g. planting flowers ..."
http://www.cheyennecity.org/index.aspx?NID=1145

"Here is a White Pine with grass growing around the base of the tree and a Norway Spruce that has proper weed control. Do not let any vegetation grow within 2 ft of your trees the first 5 years."
http://www.windbreaktrees.com/nottodo.html
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nedra
United States
Local time: 10:59
Grading comment
All the suggestions were good. I went for a simpler version but I had to give someone the points....
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2ground at base of tree not accesible using tilling machinery
Jenni Lukac
4 +2(the area) around the base of the tree
nedra
4 +1crown projection area
Ana Terzaghi
4 +1under the spread
Simon Bruni


Discussion entries: 4





  

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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
under the spread


Explanation:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q="under the spread of the tr...{referrer:source?}&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADSA_en&redir_esc=&ei=vC-oTuikJJGz8QOD5c23Dw

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Note added at 28 mins (2011-10-26 16:06:59 GMT)
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So something like the: "the area under the spread is kept clear using weed killer".

Simon Bruni
United Kingdom
Local time: 18:59
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 40
Notes to answerer
Asker: Cheers SB. Am spoilt for choice with now with so many good suggestions :)


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  John Speese: "Dripline" is also a possibility for this term.
3 mins
  -> Thanks, yep, maybe "within the dripline"
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
crown projection area


Explanation:
It refers to the area below the crown of the tree

Ana Terzaghi
Local time: 14:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 12
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks. I did know this term in forestry but am not sure if it fits for olive groves, the jury is still out....


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Rachel Fell: "...crown projection area (area under tree dripline)..." - http://www.fs.fed.us/psw/programs/uesd/uep/products/2/cufr_4...
1 hr
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
(the area) around the base of the tree


Explanation:
Basically another version of Jenni's answer.

"Avoid cultivation around the base of the tree (e.g. planting flowers ..."
http://www.cheyennecity.org/index.aspx?NID=1145

"Here is a White Pine with grass growing around the base of the tree and a Norway Spruce that has proper weed control. Do not let any vegetation grow within 2 ft of your trees the first 5 years."
http://www.windbreaktrees.com/nottodo.html

nedra
United States
Local time: 10:59
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
All the suggestions were good. I went for a simpler version but I had to give someone the points....
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks. I might just use something like this, will check with client how technical he wants it to be.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Rachel Fell
16 hrs
  -> Thanks, Rachel.

agree  Dr Neil Ashby: This or the answer of Jenni, but I personally prefer this as it is more succinct. If you look at olive trees you'll notice that they don't have very many radial roots (those which run at ground level in a horizontal direction), they do have a 'fat' base.
16 hrs
  -> Thank you!
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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
ground at base of tree not accesible using tilling machinery


Explanation:
I asked my husband on this one as his family once had an olive grove. The ruedo is the circle of ground at the base of an olive tree (the circumference of the "ruedo" being equal to extension of the tree's branches) that cannot be tilled using equipment without damaging the tree. In the old days, the ruedo was maintained by hand or by grazing goats or sheep. Perhaps there is a specific word for this in English but I have only seen base used.

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Note added at 15 mins (2011-10-26 15:54:11 GMT)
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Sorry, "accesible" should be "accessible"!

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Note added at 5 hrs (2011-10-26 21:08:26 GMT)
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In response to your note below, Neil, I considered the root and drip options and later rejected them as root deals also with depth (which is not the object here) and in a place as dry as an olive grove the classical concept of "dripline" that John has suggested seems bizarre (although the term is sometimes used by foreign writers and you wouldn't be incorrect if you used it: http://www.davero.com/trees). I also ruled out dripline because that word is also used as drip-line or drip line to describe the hose irrigation systems that are sometimes used in fruit orchards and olive groves and therefore it might cause confusion: The Oil - StreamSWEET
www.aquiferra.co.nz/The-Oil/The-Oil-6391.htm -
Aquiferra is a boutique, single estate olive grove dedicated to producing superior ... The balance are Picual, from Spain, and a hedge-row on the western ... along the rows hold the drip-line irrigation hoses and provide support for juvenile trees. ... In any case, you have some valid choices!

Jenni Lukac
Local time: 19:59
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: May just end up going for something like this.... watch this space :)


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  John Marais
10 mins
  -> Cheers and thanks, John.

agree  CBHarris: Agree - Ground surface beneath the tree canopy
16 mins
  -> Thanks, CB. "Ground surface" or "soil" both sound fine to me.
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