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English translation: high pasture // high pasturing

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Spanish term or phrase:	alzada
English translation:	high pasture // high pasturing
Entered by:	Robert Forstag

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17:37 Mar 13, 2011

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Social Sciences - Anthropology / Shepherding in Kingdom of Navarre

Spanish term or phrase: alzada

The context is a transhumant system of shepherding and cattle raising in Navarre during the medieval Kingdom of Navarre. From the context below, it appears to describe both a physical entity as well as an action.

The Kudoz glossaries and other online sources give the definition of "appeal" (legal sense), which obviously does not apply here.

Many thanks.

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“Altzubide” o “altzuguren” o “altzugarai” es el camino, ámbito, o punto de alzada, es decir, un término pastoral donde se realize la operación de la alzada.

[Text from an essay written by Julio Caro Baroja, first half of 20th century, Spain.]

Robert Forstag KudoZ activity Questions: 856 (none open) (18 closed without grading) Answers: 4588 United States
Local time: 14:02

high pasture

Explanation:
or high pasture ground. Or high pasturing if you need a verb?

i.e. the high pastures where the animals are taken in summer.

From the RAE:

14. f. Ast. Lugar alto de pastos para el verano

Selected response from:

Simon Bruni
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:02

Grading comment

Thanks so much, Simon. The reference is to both the place and activity, and thus it seems that either "high pasture" or "high pasturing" could work, depending on context.

Thanks to all who answered and commented.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +4

high pasture

Simon Bruni

height/measure

Rosa Paredes

measured

patricia scott

driving/herding the livestock to summer pasture noun:summer pasture

Jenni Lukac

gathering spot

Barbara Cochran

Discussion entries: 1

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13 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

high pasture

Simon Bruni
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:02
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

Grading comment

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agree

Christine Laurin: This seems to be the right idea from the sites I've seen. used to refer both to the high pasture grounds and village and the cattle drive to the higher pastures as well. See this site: http://www.galeon.com/vaqalztin/

26 mins

-> Thanks Chrisitine :)

agree

Charles Davis: In context it must be this. It's specifically an Asturian usage ("vaqueiros de alzada"), but Caro Baroja seems to be drawing an analogy between Navarrese "altzubide" etc. and Asturian "alzada".

38 mins

-> Thanks Charles :)

neutral

Rosa Paredes: My research took me in a completely different direction (?) We'll have to wait and see.

1 hr

-> Thanks Rosa. "camino, ámbito, o punto de alzada" suggests to me that we are dealing with a place or journey rather than measurement

agree

eski: Makes sense to me! eski

5 hrs

-> Thanks eski :)

agree

Dr Trevor Stack: But I would correct it to "high pasturing" which can refer to both the activity and the place. "High pasturing" is commonly applied to pastoralism.

14 hrs

-> Thanks Trevor :)

14 mins confidence:

measured

Explanation:
a place in which cattle is measured

alzada has different meanings (related with cattle raising) in Asturias, but outside Asturias, as far as I know, alzada is both an action (realizar la alzada) and the result of the action:

DRAE: Altura del caballo, y a veces de otros cuadrúpedos, medida desde el rodete del talón hasta la parte más elevada de la cruz.

patricia scott
Spain
Local time: 20:02
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

21 mins confidence:

gathering spot

Explanation:
Referencia: Collins Roberts

Barbara Cochran
Local time: 14:02
Native speaker of:

English

1 hr confidence:

height/measure

Explanation:
Un animal de frame 4 tendrá al destete alrededor de 100 cm de alzada.
http://www.produccion-animal.com.ar/informacion_tecnica/fram...
VILLANO DE LAS ENCARTACIONES - PORTAL EUSKAL ARTZAIN TXAKURRA ...Euskal Artzain Txakurra, perro de pastoreo vasco. ... Alzada a la cruz: 57-60 cm en machos y 55-57 cm en hembras. Proporciones: Alzada cruz / diámetro ...
www.pastorvasco.com/modules.php?name... - En caché - Similares
Tipo De Pastoreo Boxer. Su alzada: machos de 56 a 61 cm. y las hembras de 53 a 58 cm. El peso de los machos de 58 cm es de unos 30 Kg, el de las hembras de ...
mascotassenlaweb.iespana.es/razasdeperros.htm - En caché

Rosa Paredes
Canada
Local time: 11:02
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Spanish

2 hrs confidence:

driving/herding the livestock to summer pasture noun:summer pasture

Explanation:
As Carlo Baroja notes the word"alzada" is used to describe the process of herding/driving livestock (cattle, goats and sheep) to summer pastures to the higher reaches of the mountains. "Summer pasture" is the ultimate destination. This is still done all over the world. Once a year there is a conference of sheperds and herders here in Aragon and people come from Indian reservations in the US and outer Mongolia! We always go to the Pyrenees during the alzada; it's wonderful to watch the process. Once in while we've been there for the "bajada" as well. Examples: The practice of summer pasture farming is ancient, almost as old as ... law) if a farmer did not herd his cows and goats to the summer pasture, ... In addition, about 800 farms herded their cows or goats to 210 shared summer farms.
www.olavsrosa.no/en/redaksjonelt.aspx?id... - En caché - Similares; bringing livestock to summer pasture, Schwägalp (Jun 2004) ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumance_in_the_Alps - En caché - Similares; PASTORALISM: main occupation is herding livestock. ... Vertical - migrate between highland summer pastures and lowland winter pastures. ...
www.angelfire.com/az/rescon/MEHBKNMD.html - En caché - Similares; from http://lapastoradejaca.blogspot.com/2010_11_01_archive.html In English! "In the Pyrenees where I am currently based, the summer pastures in the high mountains offer abundant, high-quality forage from mid-summer to early autumn, enabling animals to gain weight rapidly during these months. However, by early fall the temperatures begin to drop and by late October or early November a sudden snowfall can trap animals and strand them in the mountains." The author of this blog, a professor who researches the life of the herders, refers to the journeys up and down the mountain as "treks".

Jenni Lukac
Local time: 20:02
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

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