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Spanish to English translations [PRO] Social Sciences - Archaeology / Mayan archaelogy Region (source): Spanish (Mexico)
Spanish term or phrase:placa bucal
Describing carving on a series of Mayan tablets that depict the same supernatural figure:
En la parte central aparece el rostro de la figura con cejas aserradas, *una placa bucal* con las comisuras hacia abajo de la que emergen dos colmillos.
The figure's face is in the center, showing a wrinkled brow, a *placa bucal* with down-turned lips, from which emerge two fangs.
Catalogue # 305, Lip-plug with the figure of a cox-cox bird, Mixtec, gold and jade, 4.3 centimeters long, 1.1 centimeter in diameter, circa 1200-1521 A.D., Museo de las Culturas de Oaxaca, INAH
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 46 mins (2005-08-25 00:49:55 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
More:
Catalogue # 305, Lip-plug with the figure of a cox-cox bird, Mixtec, gold and jade,
... Not as dramatic but strangely moving, is a stunning Olmec ... www.thecityreview.com/aztec.html - 45k - Cached - Similar pages
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The lip plugs are painted red for confidence in speech,. war, ideas, etc. ...
lip piercing. She explores the ques-. tion of whether or not the Olmec, ... www.safepiercing.org/PDFs/Point29.pdf - Similar pages
Wholesale Listings(updated on August 9, 2005)
Check out our new wide assortment of wholesale plugs ! ... Description : Sprays
of lovely soft slate-blue flowers with darker lips produce an elegant ... www.cloudsorchids.com/whole.htm - 32k - Cached - Similar pages
Ancient Art & Artifacts Holiday 2001/2002 Edition
... earrings, lip plug, large nose ring, broad tunic over chest and necklace with
... This is a provincial Olmec style. See 'Little People of the Earth; ... www.howardnowes.com/aaacat.html - 197k - Cached - Similar pages
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An intricate lip plug of crystalline beryl with a green or blue feather complimented
the ... There is speculation that this deity originated with the Olmec. ... www.pipelinenews.org/index.cfm?page=buzzaztecmajor.htm - 104k - Cached - Similar pages
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A very large Nayarit Lady in full dress ,earrings, nose plug ,arm bands ,and scared
... Mexico - Olmec and Pre-Classic Cultures. Ca. 400 BC. 10-3/4” H. ... www.youngmuseum.com/ancient_americas.htm - 23k - Cached - Similar pages
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postulated for the Maya and the Olmec,and whether there were any ... 15 Gold
labret, or lip plug, classic. Tairona style with crocodilian head with ... www.doaks.org/GoldandPower/GoldandPower07.pdf - Similar pages
22Ritual Receptacle with Stopper and Incised Super - MIHO MUSEUM
That this ritual receptacle with Olmec incised designs is carved of stone is ...
The short plug of the stopper fits into the cavity, leaving very little ... www.miho.or.jp/booth/html/doccon/90000095e.htm - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
Orpheus Art -
... Typical Olmec style features include the baby face, mouth with slightly ... ***pierced nostrils,
jutting lower lip, probably indicating a lip plug***; steatopygous thighs ...
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 47 mins (2005-08-25 00:51:11 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
a jade mask, basalt statues and an obsidian labret (lip piercing). ...
and multiple societies are represented, including the Olmec, Veracruz, Maya, ... www.vegas.com/attractions/off_the_strip/ barrickmuseum.html?f=m0at&t=stripoff - 22k - Cached - Similar pages
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Olmec, Gulf Coast, Tabasco, c. 1000–600 BC. M.86.311.6 ... Labret in the Form of
an Eagle Head. Western Oaxaca or Puebla, Mixteca-Puebla, cAD. 1200–1500. ... www.lacma.org/educate/teach_sch/SlideSetOrderForm.pdf - Similar pages
I know that it is early to shut this down, but I realize that this is the right answer (I even used "labret" in another place in the text! THANK YOU, JANE! 4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer
A labret is strictly a lip ornament according to the source I consulted. If this is the case, then how do you explain the fangs supposedly emerge from the placa bucal?
oops, se ha cortado-el resto que sigue es:"from which protrudes/juts out the mouth with the corners of the mouth turned downward(or "downturned lips," as you said)"
According to another question you asked later, it appears these are high- relief tablets, which makes me think my note may be on the right track insofar as the figure's face emerging from the center and from which protrudes/juts out the mouth with the cor
Could it be the way this tablet looks? For ex., the figure could be a bas-relief from whose center emerges the figure's face and from where the mouth juts out with downturned lips(with the corners of the mouth turned downward)
it sounds like the figure is wearing a fake teeth/mouth combo like false teeth/dentures plus lips (bec the corners of the mouth are mentioned);since it covers more than the teeth, I thought calling it a mouthpiece would be appropriate
Sorry--this is an Olmec item. Also, just fyi, the definition of "mouthpiece" in English doesn't really fit here...
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44 mins confidence: peer agreement (net): +2
a lip plug
Explanation: from a catalogue:
Catalogue # 305, Lip-plug with the figure of a cox-cox bird, Mixtec, gold and jade, 4.3 centimeters long, 1.1 centimeter in diameter, circa 1200-1521 A.D., Museo de las Culturas de Oaxaca, INAH
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 46 mins (2005-08-25 00:49:55 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
More:
Catalogue # 305, Lip-plug with the figure of a cox-cox bird, Mixtec, gold and jade,
... Not as dramatic but strangely moving, is a stunning Olmec ... www.thecityreview.com/aztec.html - 45k - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] PRESIDENT’S CORNER — The 2004 APP Conference
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
The lip plugs are painted red for confidence in speech,. war, ideas, etc. ...
lip piercing. She explores the ques-. tion of whether or not the Olmec, ... www.safepiercing.org/PDFs/Point29.pdf - Similar pages
Wholesale Listings(updated on August 9, 2005)
Check out our new wide assortment of wholesale plugs ! ... Description : Sprays
of lovely soft slate-blue flowers with darker lips produce an elegant ... www.cloudsorchids.com/whole.htm - 32k - Cached - Similar pages
Ancient Art & Artifacts Holiday 2001/2002 Edition
... earrings, lip plug, large nose ring, broad tunic over chest and necklace with
... This is a provincial Olmec style. See 'Little People of the Earth; ... www.howardnowes.com/aaacat.html - 197k - Cached - Similar pages
PipelineNews.org - The RIGHT News...RIGHT Now
An intricate lip plug of crystalline beryl with a green or blue feather complimented
the ... There is speculation that this deity originated with the Olmec. ... www.pipelinenews.org/index.cfm?page=buzzaztecmajor.htm - 104k - Cached - Similar pages
Ancient Americas
A very large Nayarit Lady in full dress ,earrings, nose plug ,arm bands ,and scared
... Mexico - Olmec and Pre-Classic Cultures. Ca. 400 BC. 10-3/4” H. ... www.youngmuseum.com/ancient_americas.htm - 23k - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] Gold and Power in Ancient Costa Rica, Panama, and Colombia
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
postulated for the Maya and the Olmec,and whether there were any ... 15 Gold
labret, or lip plug, classic. Tairona style with crocodilian head with ... www.doaks.org/GoldandPower/GoldandPower07.pdf - Similar pages
22Ritual Receptacle with Stopper and Incised Super - MIHO MUSEUM
That this ritual receptacle with Olmec incised designs is carved of stone is ...
The short plug of the stopper fits into the cavity, leaving very little ... www.miho.or.jp/booth/html/doccon/90000095e.htm - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
Orpheus Art -
... Typical Olmec style features include the baby face, mouth with slightly ... ***pierced nostrils,
jutting lower lip, probably indicating a lip plug***; steatopygous thighs ...
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 47 mins (2005-08-25 00:51:11 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
a jade mask, basalt statues and an obsidian labret (lip piercing). ...
and multiple societies are represented, including the Olmec, Veracruz, Maya, ... www.vegas.com/attractions/off_the_strip/ barrickmuseum.html?f=m0at&t=stripoff - 22k - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] European Painting and Sculpture from the Collection of the Los ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Olmec, Gulf Coast, Tabasco, c. 1000–600 BC. M.86.311.6 ... Labret in the Form of
an Eagle Head. Western Oaxaca or Puebla, Mixteca-Puebla, cAD. 1200–1500. ... www.lacma.org/educate/teach_sch/SlideSetOrderForm.pdf - Similar pages
Final: Labret or Lip plug
boy...good word that, labret
Jane Lamb-Ruiz Native speaker of: English, Portuguese PRO pts in category: 8
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I know that it is early to shut this down, but I realize that this is the right answer (I even used "labret" in another place in the text! THANK YOU, JANE!
8 mins confidence: peer agreement (net): +1
a mouthpiece
Explanation: an educated guess
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 9 mins (2005-08-25 00:13:00 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
with down-turned corners (I would not say lips but corner or something like that -- it is usually the corners of the mouth)
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 12 mins (2005-08-25 00:15:58 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
Definition
comisura f ANAT (del cráneo) commissure; ~ de los labios corner of the mouth
(from Diccionario Cambridge Klett Compact)
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 24 mins (2005-08-25 00:27:52 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
Note:It could be the way this tablet looks. For example, the figure could be a bas-relief from whose center emerges the figure's face and from where the mouth juts out with downturned lips (with the corners of the mouth turned downward) something like that...this is another possibility but I don't have a diagram or picture of the tablet.
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 38 mins (2005-08-25 00:42:07 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
According to another question you asked later, it appears these are high- relief tablets, which makes me think my note may be on the right track insofar as the figure's face emerging from the center and from which protrudes/juts out the mouth with the corners of the mouth turned downward(or "downturned lips," as you said)
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2 hrs 8 mins (2005-08-25 02:11:39 GMT) Post-grading --------------------------------------------------
Janet, technically speaking a labret or lip plug can be considered a mouthpiece (see below)as it qualifies as "something that is placed at or forming a mouth," which would not make my response wrong per se, just more generic. I have seen "mouthpiece" used in National Geographic magazine articles to signify such items that certain tribes or cultures used in rituals, etc.
Main Entry: mouth·piece
Pronunciation: -"pEs
Function: noun
1 : something placed at or forming a mouth
2 : a part (as of an instrument) that goes in the mouth or to which the mouth is applied
3 a : one that expresses or interprets another's views : SPOKESMAN b slang : a criminal lawyer
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technically speaking a labret or lip plug can be considered a mouthpiece (see below)as it qualifies as "something that is placed at or forming a mouth," which would not make my response wrong per se, just more generic. I have seen "mouthpiece" used in National Geographic magazine articles to signify such items
Carmen Schultz Local time: 13:02 Native speaker of: Spanish, English
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