relamer la forma

English translation: to lose the crispness of the shape

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Spanish term or phrase:relamer la forma
English translation:to lose the crispness of the shape
Entered by: Bubo Coroman (X)

12:48 Feb 5, 2009
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Spanish term or phrase: relamer la forma
Finalmente, si el trazo es húmedo y graso como el fondo, realizamos un trazo “húmedo sobre húmedo” en el que se funden los colores entre sí de forma sugerente, aunque se corre el riesgo de emborronar y relamer la forma.
SarahClarkG
Local time: 13:41
losing its crispness
Explanation:
although one runs the risk of smudging the shape and losing its crispness

"crisp" is the opposite of "fuzzy", e.g.
We define an optimal defuzzification of a particular fuzzy shape as a crisp shape which is as close as possible to the fuzzy shape.
http://www.cb.uu.se/seminars/index.php?pid=abstract&id=52&la...
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Bubo Coroman (X)
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I liked this in my context, reworking the sentence a little. Thanks!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1smudge the shape
margaret caulfield
4unnatrural and saturated shape
Rafael Bordabehere (X)
3 +1blur/mask/veil the shape
Christine Walsh
4"....backrunning the form"
eski
3 +1obscuring the form
James A. Walsh
3losing its crispness
Bubo Coroman (X)


  

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unnatrural and saturated shape


Explanation:
Luck.

Rafael Bordabehere (X)
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smudge the shape


Explanation:
IMO

margaret caulfield
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agree  cebice
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losing its crispness


Explanation:
although one runs the risk of smudging the shape and losing its crispness

"crisp" is the opposite of "fuzzy", e.g.
We define an optimal defuzzification of a particular fuzzy shape as a crisp shape which is as close as possible to the fuzzy shape.
http://www.cb.uu.se/seminars/index.php?pid=abstract&id=52&la...

Bubo Coroman (X)
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I liked this in my context, reworking the sentence a little. Thanks!
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blur/mask/veil the shape


Explanation:
just another option

Christine Walsh
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kate Major Patience: Yep. "wet on wet" painting. You might also get away with "running" somwhere in here.
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"....backrunning the form"


Explanation:
"...although you run the risk of blurring and backrunning the form."

2. Backrun. The second mechanism, which restores even distribution of moisture, appears as backruns. These are created by differences in paper wetness, or unevenness in the distribution of moisture on the paper, which arise because the surface has dried unevenly or because you have added fresh paint to areas that are not completely dried. (Backruns have been given many other names in the watercolor painting literature, including blossoms, ozzles, halos, runbacks and watermarks. I like backrun because it describes literally the process at work.) The rule here is:

wet into moist

meaning that areas of more concentrated or greater quantity water or paint will try to flow into already wet areas of less concentrated water or paint, and so make the distribution of the water the same across both areas


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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-02-05 20:23:34 GMT)
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http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/tech23a.html

eski
Mexico
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obscuring the form


Explanation:
That's my take on it.

Hope this helps :)

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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-02-05 15:10:54 GMT)
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'Relamida' hmmm.... The first word that springs to mind is 'overwork'.
'But on the other hand there is a danger: if you don't control the technique, the colours are spoiled and the resulting image is overworked and artificial'

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Note added at 5 days (2009-02-10 22:34:20 GMT)
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Well if it was me, I would translate 'relamer' as obscuring, and 'relamida' as overworking; both are similar in suggestion, in that they both convey the same (advisory) message of the form being taken beyond a point of no return by either being 'obsured' or 'overworked' using this technique.
Hope this helps :)

Example sentence(s):
  • ...runs the risk of smudging and obscuring the form.
James A. Walsh
Spain
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Notes to answerer
Asker: Just found the word "relamida" too in the same document which is interesting, any comments?! "Esta propiedad es, por un lado, una ventaja, ya que permite realizar acabados sedosos y delicadas atmósferas; pero por otro lado, es un peligro: si no se controla la técnica, los colores se ensucian y la imagen resulta excesivamente relamida y artificial"

Asker: I agree that relamida is overworked here, which still leaves relamer as a slight mystery...


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kate Major Patience: Yep. "wet on wet" painting. You might also get away with "running" somwhere in here.
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