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Previsión Social - Seguro Social

English translation: Social Welfare


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Spanish term or phrase:Previsión Social - Seguro Social
English translation:Social Welfare
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12:00 Feb 20, 2003
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial
Spanish term or phrase: Previsión Social - Seguro Social
Estoy traduciendo al inglés el balance de una empresa mexicana, y me encuentro con estos dos términos bastante conocidos. El problema para mí es que entiendo que Previsión Social se refiere a la jubilación y seguro social al cuidado médico, y si traduzco ambos como Social Security, la gente pensará que hay un error. A menos que para Previsión Social ponga Social Security Pension Fund. ¿Qué proponen ustedes?

Saludos desde Mar del Plata

Roberto
Robert INGLEDEW
Argentina
Local time: 08:23
Social Welfare
Explanation:
Good luck

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These are definitions from the Oxford Superlex:

previsión f
a (precaución) precaution; en previsión de posibles desórdenes as a precaution against
possible disturbances; por falta de previsión owing to a lack of foresight; un sistema de
previsión social a welfare system
b (predicción — de un resultado) forecast, prediction; (— del tiempo) forecast

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Compensation - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... del Trabajo y Previsión Social”, the Secretary of Labor and Social Welfare. The
idea of “Social Welfare” is deeply ingrained in Mexico’s patriarchal ...
www.mexicanlaws.com/Compensation.htm - 101k

Program of Essential Social Services (PROSSE) - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... CP 06696 Mexico DF, Mexico Telephone: (52-5) 553-6967 Secretaría del Trabajo y Previsión
Social (STPS) Secretariat of Labor and Social Welfare Periferico Sur ...
www.iadb.org/EXR/doc98/apr/me868e.htm

Basham, Ringe y Correa - BRC . México - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... negotiated settlements approved by Mexico\'s Conciliation and ... Department of Labor
and Social Welfare (Secretaría del Trabajo y Previsión Social) in the ...
www.basham.com.mx/asp/area_laboral-e.asp

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REFERENCE CORRECTION:

http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=173904
Selected response from:

xxxEDLING
Grading comment
I still believe that Previsión Social has to do with the pension fund, but social welfare is an acceptable alternative.

Thank you.

Roberto
2 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +1Social or Fringe Benefits
Henry Hinds
5welfare/social provision - social security
Dan Brennan
5social security and welfare services
María Eugenia Wachtendorff
5medicare
Katherine Matles
5Social Security Pension Fund
Sunshine King
5In a British context:Paul Stevens
4Social WelfarexxxEDLING


Discussion entries: 1





  

Answers


1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Social Welfare


Explanation:
Good luck

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Note added at 2003-02-20 12:07:15 (GMT)
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These are definitions from the Oxford Superlex:

previsión f
a (precaución) precaution; en previsión de posibles desórdenes as a precaution against
possible disturbances; por falta de previsión owing to a lack of foresight; un sistema de
previsión social a welfare system
b (predicción — de un resultado) forecast, prediction; (— del tiempo) forecast

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Note added at 2003-02-20 12:09:05 (GMT)
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Compensation - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... del Trabajo y Previsión Social”, the Secretary of Labor and Social Welfare. The
idea of “Social Welfare” is deeply ingrained in Mexico’s patriarchal ...
www.mexicanlaws.com/Compensation.htm - 101k

Program of Essential Social Services (PROSSE) - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... CP 06696 Mexico DF, Mexico Telephone: (52-5) 553-6967 Secretaría del Trabajo y Previsión
Social (STPS) Secretariat of Labor and Social Welfare Periferico Sur ...
www.iadb.org/EXR/doc98/apr/me868e.htm

Basham, Ringe y Correa - BRC . México - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... negotiated settlements approved by Mexico\'s Conciliation and ... Department of Labor
and Social Welfare (Secretaría del Trabajo y Previsión Social) in the ...
www.basham.com.mx/asp/area_laboral-e.asp

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REFERENCE CORRECTION:

http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=173904


    Reference: http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=17390
xxxEDLING
PRO pts in pair: 617
Grading comment
I still believe that Previsión Social has to do with the pension fund, but social welfare is an acceptable alternative.

Thank you.

Roberto

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  María Eugenia Wachtendorff: traducciones Google... ¿quién se quedaría tranquilo con esto?
2 hrs
  -> Perdón, pero hay que saber LEER BIEN: la referencia son los glosarios de ProZ y, a partir de ahí, se buscan documentos relevantes, en Oxford Superlex y Google
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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Social Security Pension Fund


Explanation:
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Sunshine King
United States
Local time: 05:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 39
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
In a British context:


Explanation:
"Previsión Social" could be translated as Social Security and "Seguro Social" as National Insurance.

But you are probably looking for an American angle on this.

HTH

Paul Stevens
Local time: 11:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 718
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41 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
medicare


Explanation:
If its for the U.S. you can use social security for previsión social and Medicare to refer to to the medical care they receive.


ACP-ASIM Observer, June 2001 - Medicare clarifies its definition ... - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... The revised definition, which took effect in February 2001 ... Elderly beneficiaries who
do not often travel from ... advanced age would not meet Medicare’s criteria ...
www.acponline.org/journals/news/jun01/q&a.htm - 19k - En caché - Páginas similares


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What Is Medicare?
Medicare is the nation’s health insurance program for the elderly and disabled. Medicaid is the nation’s health insurance program for people with low incomes.
Medicare provides coverage to 39 million people (1 in 7 Americans): 35 million senior citizens (65 and older) and 4 million disabled citizens
Before Medicare, about half of all elderly American had health insurance
It is expected to cover over 72 million beneficiaries by 2027
http://www.dcwatch.com/lwvdc/lwv9812c.htm

Katherine Matles
Spain
Local time: 12:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 863
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55 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Social or Fringe Benefits


Explanation:
En México el Seguro Social (Social Security) contempla servicio médico.

¨Previsión Social¨ (Social or Fringe Benefits) contempla diversas prestaciones de otro tipo (fondo de vivienda, consumo, jubilación. etc.)


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Henry Hinds
Local time: 04:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in pair: 25061

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  María Eugenia Wachtendorff: Aaaaayyy... Esto pasa porque no pones una fotito, Henry. No vi tu respuesta -o quizás la vi, pero no tu nombre... pero hace poco me contestaste esta pregunta como indico abajo... ¿Parece que no en todos los estados es igual?
2 hrs
  -> Según el contexto no necesariamente lo pondría igual, tampoco es igual en todos los países... y la foto cuando me la saquen.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
welfare/social provision - social security


Explanation:
i think welfare and social can be used as alternatives depending on whether you want US or British English...

Dan Brennan
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 116
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
social security and welfare services


Explanation:
Hace pocos días hice la misma pregunta y Henry Hinds, que tiene una vida de experiencia en la frontera con Méjico, me dio esta respuesta.
HTH,
María Eugenia

María Eugenia Wachtendorff
Chile
Local time: 08:23
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in pair: 3859

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  xxxEDLING: http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=173904. Esta referencia estaba dada 2 horas y 53 minutos antes
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