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gratificación por retorno

English translation: golden welcome back


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Spanish term or phrase:gratificación por retorno
English translation:golden welcome back
Entered by: Charles Davis
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08:53 Dec 23, 2011
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general) / executive payments
Spanish term or phrase: gratificación por retorno
From a dictionary on HR and business terms, the entry in Spanish is "gratificación por retorno".
Explanation: Retribución a un directivo jubilado para que se incorpore de nuevo a la actividad de la empresa.

The suggested English translation is "golden retriever", to follow the pattern of golden handshake, golden hello etc.
However, I have never heard of this term and cannot find reference to it being used on the internet or in the dictionaries I have. Does anyone know if this term exists, or alternatively, the expression used?
Thanks in advance!
Eleanor P
Spain
Local time: 07:12
golden welcome back
Explanation:
May I say I think "golden retriever" deserves to exist and is really quite clever, but I can't find any trace of it in this sense and I'm not sure I would have the nerve to use it.

However, I have found "golden welcome back" used by the BBC (no less) and offer it as a suggestion if you would like to use the "golden" thing.

"A drive to attract teachers who left the profession back to the classroom has yet to pay off.
The number of people returning this year is expected to be about the same as last year, according to the Teacher Training Agency.
Teachers are not flocking back to the classroom, despite enticements such as a £4,000 golden "welcome back" for teachers of shortage subjects, bursaries of £150 a week plus help with childcare costs."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/1496329.stm

And it's even been used in parliament. Sounds as though it's caught on in UK education:

"Select Committee on Education and Skills Minutes of Evidence
The Government is spending lots of money with golden hellos, golden comebacks, golden this and golden that, do you think that they are being sufficiently imaginative with the sort of money that is available? For example, if there is a golden welcome back, presumably a school in a leafy suburb can go out and get a teacher who can go to this school and get this £4,000, whereas they would not have much difficulty in recruiting someone else, would they?"
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200304/cmselect/c...

Maybe "golden comeback", mentioned in the question just quoted, is used too, though I haven't found any other evidence of it.
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Charles Davis
Local time: 07:12
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2reinstatement bonus
Simon Bruni
4 +1retiree reenlistment bonuspatinba
4golden welcome backCharles Davis
3golden hello
Lisa McCarthy
3rehire bonus
kleiva
3 -1Recognition to his performance
ERNESTO MANZANILLA


Discussion entries: 4





  

Answers


16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
golden hello


Explanation:
Golden Retriever is a dog :))

Former midwives wooed back into NHS with £3000 golden hello to ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Former-midwives-wooed-NHS-3-000-gol...
24 Feb 2008 – Former midwives will be lured back to the NHS with a golden hello***, ... The critical report will also call for more consultants to be employed on ...

Lisa McCarthy
Spain
Local time: 07:12
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 166
Notes to answerer
Asker: I know that a golden retriever is a dog!! I could translate it as a golden hello, but that applies to another term in there, whereby companies lure top executives with a bonus, but not necessarily someone who has already worked in the company. I would prefer to distinguish between the two concepts if possible, as they do in the Spanish.

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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
reinstatement bonus


Explanation:
Is the best I could come up with.

I've done some digging and found no evidence that "golden retriever" is used in this way, but I dare say you could coin it as a "new term" because it kind of makes sense, even if it's a bit cheesy.


    Reference: http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_E...
Simon Bruni
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:12
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 128
Notes to answerer
Asker: hmm, sounds quite good actually.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans: this is the best suggestion AND it is clear in meaning, doesn't relate to a dog or have golden connotations...;)
12 hrs
  -> Thanks, Allegro

agree  conniejimenez
21 hrs
  -> Thanks, Connie
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
retiree reenlistment bonus


Explanation:
but I would vote for golden retriever too :)

patinba
Argentina
Local time: 02:12
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 387

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ERNESTO MANZANILLA: I sort of agree with this idea, to me it means as a recognition of his work.
5 hrs
  -> Thanks!

neutral  kleiva: Personally, I would avoid the use of "reenlistment" in a corporate setting since most often associated with military personnel. Perhaps "retiree rehire bonus".
5 hrs
  -> Yes, it is military, but could be understood in a civilian context. Rehire is good.

neutral  AllegroTrans: I would also avoid "retiree"; the person may be returning after an involuntary redundnacy for all we know
8 hrs
  -> The context provided says it involves a "directivo jubilado"
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
golden welcome back


Explanation:
May I say I think "golden retriever" deserves to exist and is really quite clever, but I can't find any trace of it in this sense and I'm not sure I would have the nerve to use it.

However, I have found "golden welcome back" used by the BBC (no less) and offer it as a suggestion if you would like to use the "golden" thing.

"A drive to attract teachers who left the profession back to the classroom has yet to pay off.
The number of people returning this year is expected to be about the same as last year, according to the Teacher Training Agency.
Teachers are not flocking back to the classroom, despite enticements such as a £4,000 golden "welcome back" for teachers of shortage subjects, bursaries of £150 a week plus help with childcare costs."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/1496329.stm

And it's even been used in parliament. Sounds as though it's caught on in UK education:

"Select Committee on Education and Skills Minutes of Evidence
The Government is spending lots of money with golden hellos, golden comebacks, golden this and golden that, do you think that they are being sufficiently imaginative with the sort of money that is available? For example, if there is a golden welcome back, presumably a school in a leafy suburb can go out and get a teacher who can go to this school and get this £4,000, whereas they would not have much difficulty in recruiting someone else, would they?"
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200304/cmselect/c...

Maybe "golden comeback", mentioned in the question just quoted, is used too, though I haven't found any other evidence of it.

Charles Davis
Local time: 07:12
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 117
Notes to answerer
Asker: Great! Even if in these references it is used to refer to teachers rather than business executives, I think the inference is that it is normally used in that context. I'm glad that there's an expression using golden, as that's in-keeping with all the other "golden" expressions I'm translating. Thanks!

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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Recognition to his performance


Explanation:
I have never seen this phrase, but to me it means a recognition or pay back to some one who has done an excelent performance.

Example sentence(s):
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ERNESTO MANZANILLA
Mexico
Local time: 00:12
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  AllegroTrans: not really about "performance" but about reinstatement, so could be confusing; and we woulkd not say "recognition to" in English anyway
2 hrs
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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
rehire bonus


Explanation:
Another option, although not as widely used as I had expected (only 1.63 million Google search results). I liked "reinstatement bonus"; however, "reinstatement" can sometimes have a negative connotation, whereas "rehire" does not.


    Reference: http://www.joanlloyd.com/HR-Issues/The-war-for-talent-is-in-...
kleiva
Local time: 00:12
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
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