organicidad

English translation: (political) affiliation (with)

19:13 Aug 5, 2010

Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Cinema, Film, TV, Drama

Spanish term or phrase: organicidad

La búsqueda de organicidad con fuerzas políticas revolucionarias, es otro rasgo que define al cine militante. Es el caso de los grupos de Cine Liberación (ligado al peronismo) y Cine de la Base (ligado al PRT-ERP) en Argentina.
There are earlier entries for this term on proz, but none of the definitions fit. Any ideas?

Wendy Gosselin KudoZ activity Questions: 2020 (5 open) (214 closed without grading) Answers: 2 Argentina
Local time: 11:14

English translation:(political) affiliation (with)

Explanation:
i.e. being the "mouthpiece" through which the political movements mentioned (peronismo...) communicate with the masses

Ref.:

Si bien el rock no incarna actualmente un movimiento social como durante la última dictadura, y aún sin poseer ***organicidad política***...
http://books.google.es/books?id=aZKPbJNcnX0C&pg=PA47&lpg=PA4...

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Note added at 29 mins (2010-08-05 19:42:05 GMT)
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there is also some relevant text in the paragraph that follows:

"es de destacar que lo apolítico de este tipo de fenómenos sociales supone también una voluntad particular de participación en la vida social, aunque ***sin ninguna guía política específica***

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Note added at 13 hrs (2010-08-06 08:33:32 GMT)
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another possibility: "the quest to pair up with". The reason why I suggest "the quest for affiliation with" or "the quest to pair up with" is the author's use of "ligado" -- to describe the attempts at "pairing up", "matching up" or "affiliation" between two film groups and two political parties respectively.

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(political) affiliation (with)

Bubo Coroman (X)

The deliberate attempt to express solidarity with revolutionary political groups

Robert Forstag

organicism

Ana Gutierrez

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La búsqueda de organicidad con fuerzas políticas revolucionarias The deliberate attempt to express solidarity with revolutionary political groups

Explanation:
I see the element of "busqueda" here as important, and I would recommend defining it as "a deliberate attempt" on the part of the filmmakers. I don't see where this element would then fit with the use of "affiliation."

Suerte.

Robert Forstag
United States
Local time: 10:14
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peer agreement (net): +4

(political) affiliation (with)

Bubo Coroman (X)
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22 hrs confidence:

organicism

Explanation:
Example: This talk will focus on the concept of *organicism*—its origins, forms, and uses—in the writings of C.L.R. James. James was a revolutionary Marxist socialist, but his ideas and perspectives on the worldwide struggle for liberation from capitalist and imperialist hegemony do not fall easily into preconceived categories of Marxist thought.

Example of Spanish use of the word in a film context: La idea de cine militante implica dos aspectos principales: por un lado, la vinculación u *organicidad* del grupo a fuerzas político revolucionarias; por otro lado, la instrumentalización del film en la lucha política de liberación.

The latter example made me think of translating it as *close bond* but it sounds a bit lame to me. Saying that, *affiliation* does mean a close bound so I think it is a good choice.

But it does seem that *organicism* is an established concept in English. See wiki entry. So I thought I would throw it in the pot of options.

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organicism

Ana Gutierrez
Local time: 15:14
Native speaker of: Spanish

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