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por sobre las 4 horas señaladas

English translation: over the 4-hours restriction


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Spanish term or phrase: por sobre las 4 horas señaladas
One of those cases where the sum of the whole is greater than the parts. From a document about system requirements (LAm Spanish)

- Tiempo de respuesta promedio de bajada de página/pantalla con dato.
- Corresponde al tiempo en que una página/pantalla se muestra en el computador de un usuario del sistema en las instalaciones de la CLINICA.
- Tiempo de respuesta promedio de bajada de página/pantalla, medida en una estación de trabajo de usuario, menor que 10 segundos durante el periodo de 4 horas consecutivas en horario hábil.
- Multa de 2 Unidades por cada hora de incumplimiento por sobre las 4 horas señaladas.

I cannot fathom what this is getting at. I think it means that page download time must be less than 10 seconds for 4 consecutive hours during the working day. But that doesn´t seem to make sense with the "por sobre de las 4 horas senaladas" bit, since if the requirement is 10 seconds during 4 hours, then what does it matter if the download time is greater outside of that 4-hour period?

Help!
Wendy Leech
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:27
English translation:over the 4-hours restriction
Explanation:
My understanding of this text (although I have to recognise that it is not clear at all) is:
- Best performance allowable: average time below 10 s during a maximum period of 4 (consecutive) hours. That is, at the end of the day, my average downloading speed might be 30 s, but if it less than 10 s during 5 hours (out of them, at least, 4 being consecutive), for example, I would be penalised with 2 units.
- "4 horas señaladas" makes reference to the aforementioned time restriction. Thus you can refer it in may ways (but by making clear its exact meaning). For example: the 4-hours restriction, 4-hour time restriction, 4-hour restricted speed...

I hope this helps.

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Note added at 49 mins (2009-08-28 10:55:39 GMT)
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Answering to the Asker: the ideal is not fast download speed... You are in a Hospital, a network "enjoyer", not a network developer; and, most probably, the higher the network usage is (that is: downloading lots of things), the more expensive. The administration has to set restrictions in order to avoid workers to make an intensive use of internet.
This would be the logical explanation. Unfortunately (for me), this is not the case here and this is what makes it a bit difficult to understand. The restricted parameter is speed of response... One interpretation might be: independently upon the user, computers manage available (speed) resources following certain more-or-less open structure; thus this penalisation is for computers being too fast during a too long period: the resources management would penalise the speed of this computer the next time....

I know, it sounds a bit too complicated. But the rest of the text seems to back this type of interpretations (+ the fact of being a Hospital, that is, a place where a better (more data or faster data) usage of internet tends to be penalised): setting 4 hours as the comparison period and then setting restrictions for longer periods... But, as said, it is quite wrongly explained.

I don't know... Even I have got doubts.

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Note added at 52 mins (2009-08-28 10:58:32 GMT)
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Answering to the Asker (2): I have more or less replied your second question in my first response (sorry for the delay): faster is better for a network developer, faster is worse for a network user (paying for this additional speed)... But as said, I am not completely sure: this text is a nightmare.
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Álvaro Carballo García
Spain
Local time: 11:27
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Thanks Alvaro - i don't think i would have got there on my own!
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over the 4-hours restriction


Explanation:
My understanding of this text (although I have to recognise that it is not clear at all) is:
- Best performance allowable: average time below 10 s during a maximum period of 4 (consecutive) hours. That is, at the end of the day, my average downloading speed might be 30 s, but if it less than 10 s during 5 hours (out of them, at least, 4 being consecutive), for example, I would be penalised with 2 units.
- "4 horas señaladas" makes reference to the aforementioned time restriction. Thus you can refer it in may ways (but by making clear its exact meaning). For example: the 4-hours restriction, 4-hour time restriction, 4-hour restricted speed...

I hope this helps.

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Note added at 49 mins (2009-08-28 10:55:39 GMT)
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Answering to the Asker: the ideal is not fast download speed... You are in a Hospital, a network "enjoyer", not a network developer; and, most probably, the higher the network usage is (that is: downloading lots of things), the more expensive. The administration has to set restrictions in order to avoid workers to make an intensive use of internet.
This would be the logical explanation. Unfortunately (for me), this is not the case here and this is what makes it a bit difficult to understand. The restricted parameter is speed of response... One interpretation might be: independently upon the user, computers manage available (speed) resources following certain more-or-less open structure; thus this penalisation is for computers being too fast during a too long period: the resources management would penalise the speed of this computer the next time....

I know, it sounds a bit too complicated. But the rest of the text seems to back this type of interpretations (+ the fact of being a Hospital, that is, a place where a better (more data or faster data) usage of internet tends to be penalised): setting 4 hours as the comparison period and then setting restrictions for longer periods... But, as said, it is quite wrongly explained.

I don't know... Even I have got doubts.

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Note added at 52 mins (2009-08-28 10:58:32 GMT)
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Answering to the Asker (2): I have more or less replied your second question in my first response (sorry for the delay): faster is better for a network developer, faster is worse for a network user (paying for this additional speed)... But as said, I am not completely sure: this text is a nightmare.

Álvaro Carballo García
Spain
Local time: 11:27
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Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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Thanks Alvaro - i don't think i would have got there on my own!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Your answer makes a lot of sense, apart from one point - surely the ideal is for a fast download speed, so why would you be penalised for it being faster (in your example, less than 10s, compared to the average of 30s)? I feel the extract would make much more sense if it said "por debajo de las 4 horas" - i.e. 4 hours is the target, but if average speed is 10s over only 3 hours, then they get fined. but if average speed is 10s over 5 hours then great, they have over-performed. Or have i misunderstood the benefits of fast/slow download speed?

Asker: That makes more sense now. Although I know the client is a Clinic, I don´t know who the actual users of the system will be, and therefore given the lack of context provided - your suggestion is the best i have!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tom2004: Wouldn't it be "4-hour"? Eg. an "8-hour" workday NOT an "8-hours" workday.
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  -> I was doubting on this point. But by putting "the" it sounded better to me 4-hours... but my contribution was the Spanish text understanding; the English bit would be done better by Wendy (English native speaker, I presume)
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over the four hours allotted


Explanation:
al·lot (-lt)
tr.v. al·lot·ted, al·lot·ting, al·lots
1. To parcel out; distribute or apportion:
2. To assign as a portion; allocate: allotted 20 minutes to each speaker.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/allot


Isabelle17
Brazil
Local time: 07:27
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
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