Junta de Compensación

18:46 Jul 15, 2011

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Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Construction / Civil Engineering

Spanish term or phrase: Junta de Compensación

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to translate the above. It appears in a contract for the works on a motorway in Spain and I understand the concept in Spanish, but not how to convey it in English.

I think that it is something along the lines of a body of owners of land upon which the road works are being carried out. What happens is that their land is expropriated and they have to carry out the works pertaining to their land at their own expense, supervised by the local council.
When I say "carry out", I don't mean doing the physical digging, but rather that they are responsible for said works.

Is there such a concept in the UK?

In Spanish the sentence goes something like this :
Las obras, situadas en el término municipal de XXXXX, ejecutadas para la **junta de compensación** de XXXX

Thanks

Marie-Helene Dubois KudoZ activity Questions: 45 (1 open) (4 closed without grading) Answers: 494 Spain
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Summary of answers provided

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Compensation Board (but SEE BELOW)

FVS (X)

Expropriation Compensation Board

Jenni Lukac (X)

Discussion entries: 8

Marie-Helene Dubois

Spain

ASKER

FVS

09:01 Jul 21, 2011

That's up to you of course.

FVS (X)

Thanks for the points.

08:57 Jul 20, 2011

I don't think I'll bother next time.

Marie-Helene Dubois

Spain

ASKER

I think it's one of those

08:21 Jul 20, 2011

which doesn't have a translation. Thanks for your input.

FVS (X)

Some explanation

06:36 Jul 16, 2011

http://www.nuevosvecinos.com/bcarabanchel/201831_que_es_una_...

Qué es una Junta de Compensación?, en palabras sencillas y resumiendo, el esquema es el siguiente:

La administración aprueba un planeamiento urbanístico para una zona, hacer un nuevo barrio como el PAU, por ejemplo. Luego decide el sistema para llevarlo a cabo, teniendo en cuenta que esos terrenos son de una serie de propietarios a los que deberá satisfacer, en este caso el de compensación.

Todos los propietarios de esa zona juntan sus terrenos, que luego volverán a repartirse pero en zonas edificables establecidas por el planeamiento, para esto se constituyen en una Junta de Compensación, el que no quiere formar parte se le expropia y punto. Digamos que como el suelo ya se ha convertido en urbanizable y para evitar que cada uno haga su promoción en su terreno sin mas y se edifique al libre albedrío, se aprueba un Proyecto de Compensación por el cual todos los propietarios ceden sus terrenos a la Junta, normalmente no transmiten, para que esta a cambio les dé proporcionalmente una serie de metros edificables, ubicados en una zona distinta de la que estos eran propietarios

Jenni Lukac (X)

22:49 Jul 15, 2011

I think that any contract that contains this term should have to carry a translation of the legal statement (such as the one you've just found) as an addendum. There are too many ins and outs to the concept and I'd don't think any one term is going to give more than a vague (an perhaps erroneous) idea of what these "juntas" can do and do.

Marie-Helene Dubois

Spain

ASKER

Here's another explanation I've found

19:35 Jul 15, 2011

http://valcap.es/html/Articulos/Inmuebles/las juntas.htm

Marie-Helene Dubois

Spain

ASKER

I know it's terrible but I think I'm right

19:31 Jul 15, 2011

Here are some sources:
http://www.nuevosvecinos.com/bcarabanchel/201831_que_es_una_...

There was a scandal around the area of Valencia a few years ago because there was a lot of "Land Grab" going on and some of it affected Brits who'd bought property here. It got to the UK press so you should be able to find info on it by googling LRAU or Land Grab Spain.
Perhaps there isn't such a thing in the UK....

philgoddard

United States

19:16 Jul 15, 2011

If they've had their land expropriated, why should they have to pay for the motorway?

Answers

11 mins confidence:

Expropriation Compensation Board

Explanation:
This is how I've always known it.E.C.B. Number 28/91/141 - Expropriation Compensation Board - www.ecb.gov.bc.ca/decision/2891141.htm - En cachéMayfair seeks an order of the Expropriation Compensation Board (the "board") ... experience in real estate related matters both in England and Canada. ...; parliament.wa.gov.au/...nsf/(Report.../pf.lan.040514.rpf.007.app6.pdfFormato de archivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Vista rápida
Compulsory Purchase Act 1965 (UK). The law relating to compensation is a ..... 4.31 The Expropriation Compensation Board has authority under the Act to ...

Jenni Lukac (X)
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Compensation Board (but SEE BELOW)

Explanation:
There is no equivalent whatsoever for this in the English-speaking world.

I have translated this term a zillion times and always put 'compensation board' because there is no obviously better translation.

It has nothing in principle to do with expropriation. It occurs in multiple land development contexts.

Having said that I am pretty sure there is no better translation.

FVS (X)
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English
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